Yeah, but DLAA at 4K is what you might call 'placebo' quality -- you're not gonna be able to tell the difference between that and the Quality DLSS setting of 67% unless you're scrutinizing a side-by-side comparison. Even Performance DLSS at 50% is going to be plenty good enough for most people. 35% is nearly the equivalent of Ultra Performance (33.3%), which I would consider a bit extreme, but I guess if you're dead-set against FG...

Kxmode wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 22:39:

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 16:22:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 13:58:
I have frame gen turned off.

This explains it.

Frame Gen isn't needed because lowering DLSS Super Resolution to 35% and setting Fully Ray Tracing to Low boosts framerates to 110-125, an 88% improvement.

what about setting dlss to 100% (dlaa) and enabling frame gen? surely thats higher quality than the low rendering resolution 35% dlss provides

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 16:22:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 13:58:
I have frame gen turned off.

This explains it.

Frame Gen isn't needed because lowering DLSS Super Resolution to 35% and setting Fully Ray Tracing to Low boosts framerates to 110-125, an 88% improvement.

Kxmode wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 13:58:
I have frame gen turned off.

This explains it.

Overon wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 11:19:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:

What resolution?

4K. 3840 x 2160

I figured out the performance problems. Lowering DLSS Super Resolution from 50% to 35% and setting Fully Ray Tracing from High to Low boosts framerates to 110-125. It's still not ideal, but it's significantly better than 60-65.

I have frame gen turned off.

Bludd wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 12:18:

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 12:05:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.

You "should" be getting 150+ fps? What nonsense is this? You are complaining about atrocious performance while saying you have everything indiscriminately set to max in the same breath. Get outa here.

with frame gen he should, look at my results

Sorry, missed your screenshots. Then I guess he's running on 4K and/or something else is off with his rig. Game looks mighty optimized based on your results, unless it looks like shit.

Personally I don't care about this game. A gut feeling tells me the souls-like genre is about to die, but that's probably just me projecting how I feel about the genre...

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 12:05:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.

You "should" be getting 150+ fps? What nonsense is this? You are complaining about atrocious performance while saying you have everything indiscriminately set to max in the same breath. Get outa here.

with frame gen he should, look at my results

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.

You "should" be getting 150+ fps? What nonsense is this? You are complaining about atrocious performance while saying you have everything indiscriminately set to max in the same breath. Get outa here.

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.

full raytracing on or off? frame gen on or off?

i got this with your settings and frame gen on and raytracing on and off with my lesser 13900k and 6000 MT DDR5 (64 GB) at 1440p

this game really needs rt, shadows are ugly without but it has too much pop in and too aggressive LOD distance

rt on very high
https://imgur.com/SSYcfEd

rt off
https://imgur.com/hI8b9N9

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.

What resolution?

Kajetan wrote on Aug 14, 2024, 04:52:

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

The benchmark includes Denuvo for better realism.

I just noticed that the game as Denuvo. Sad.
Having said that I'm having a hard time believing that this game will be good, judging by Game Science previous games. They have no demonstrated ability to make high quality games. I can't wait to find out if I'm right or wrong.

This comment was edited on Aug 14, 2024, 14:59.

"ONLY" getting 60-65 fpa and complaining about it. 🤣 Back in my day, I was suffering through games like i76 at 10-15 fps, and happy for the experience. You young whippersnappers don't know how good you've got it. 65 is plenty smooth! You can't see faster than 30 fps anyway (kappa). 🙂

Kxmode wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 22:30:
Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

The benchmark includes Denuvo for better realism.

Well, the Black Myth: Wukong Steam forums is completely overrun with Chinese posts and most of them about China's president, but in a idol hero sort of way. I think other language speakers are just trolling by posting Chinese translated nonsense lol. It's madness!

Atrocious performance! Something is seriously wrong with this game.

- i9-14900K
- RTX 4090 24GB
- DDR5 32GB 6400MT/s
- SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB M.2 (Up to 7,450 MB/s)

Vsync is off, and the framerates are uncapped. I have everything set to max (using "Cinematic" quality, which is the highest available), with DLSS enabled at 50% usage, and I'm only getting 60-65 FPS. I should be seeing something like 150-170+ FPS.

I reran the benchmark after dropping the quality to "Very High." The visuals were noticeably degraded, yet the FPS worsened, falling to 50-55 FPS, with no explanation for the decline.

By the way, my CPU is running very cool at around 45°C while the benchmark ran.

The game needs more time to optimize performance because it cannot launch with this, especially not with DLSS enabled.

Worse performance I've seen in recent times. The abysmal DLSS performance is real head scratcher.