Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 10:11:
I don't think ShadowofWard is the kind of anti-vaxxer you think you're directing your comment to atm. At least I have zero reasons to believe he is. In fact, I think there's no Bluesnews member of that kind at all.

Oh, there DEFINITELY are. More than one have been banned, at least temporarily, but not necessarily for that particular belief. Trump cultists are everywhere, even here, but they tend to keep quieter here since they are so vastly outnumbered.

I don't think ShadowofWard is the kind of anti-vaxxer you think you're directing your comment to atm. At least I have zero reasons to believe he is. In fact, I think there's no Bluesnews member of that kind at all.

Ah, the old "Do your own 'research'" chestnut is making the rounds again. "Research" being in triple quotes because looking up shit some rando posts on the internet isn't actual research. That's just people searching for things to enhance their confirmation bias.

But you know what does impact me? First hand experience. That's pretty incontrovertible in my world. I've received vaccines my whole life.

Here's what vaccines haven't given to me:

* Superpowers
* Autism
* Cancer
* The ability to vote Republican
* A slow descent in to madness as my physical form transmutes in to an eldritch horror
* An increased risk of heart disease
* Alien DNA as part of a worldwide conspiracy to allow the reptiloids from Rigel to rule over the planet

But on the bright side, vaccines have made the following happen to me:

* I've never had polio
* Or chickenpox
* Or smallpox
* I haven't had a bout of flu in almost two decades
* It's now mid-2024 and I still haven't had COVID yet
* I've never had pertussis/whooping cough
* Or mumps
* Or measles
* Or rubella
* Or tetanus
* Or HPV
* Or Hepatitis A OR B
* Or diphtheria
* Or meningococcal
* Or rotavirus
* Or RSV
* Or any of the other diseases that vaccines prevent/protect against

Weird, it's almost like vaccines are an effective prophylactic against diseases that used to slaughter or cripple people by the millions, have been administered billions of times, and have had very few and rare side effects that are well within the statistical mean.

Dev wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 07:21:

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 04:46:

ShadowofWard wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 03:00:
Seems like some of the Blue News readers are blissfully unaware of the recent Freedom of Information Act and the CDC documents regarding the mRNA vaccinations. Please don't read them and continue to trust this organization. Honestly I'm sure it's far to time consuming to do actual research regarding this topic and use 100% verifiably information to form your opinions. Just trust the CDC they know best.

What do you believe are the most convincing finds of the FOIA which lead you to distrust the CDC?

I was curious, took a bit to dig up info I believe it's this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cdc-redacts-myocarditis-study/

Anyways, it's not a secret that the vaccine comes with a tiny increased risk of myocarditis, that's not some super secret no one is saying. BUT here's the rub covid 19 comes with a hugely increased risk of mycarditis, much more than the vaccine. And if people were dying in job lots from the vaccine, we'd have seen that by now. And we'd have seen increased death rates in democrats from it if it were the case. Instead, we've seen excess deaths from covid 19 that lean more republican because of lack of vaccine.

Personally, I agree with you, but I'm not the target group that trips over this shit. Regardless of one's stance on the issues surrounding the CDC and mRNA vaccines, I think transparency is crucial. It's important that all information -- whether it supports or challenges the prevailing narrative -- is accessible and open to scrutiny. This ensures that the public can make informed decisions based on the full spectrum of available data. Transparency builds trust and is essential for maintaining confidence in public health institutions, especially in such critical matters. It's because of findings from the FOIA (it's a bit more, and more complex than your initial findings, although not so profound for you and me) that a certain group of people is so hessitant to trust institutions. Full transparancy eventually leads to less ammunition for the idiots and conspiracy theorists.

Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 04:46:

ShadowofWard wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 03:00:
Seems like some of the Blue News readers are blissfully unaware of the recent Freedom of Information Act and the CDC documents regarding the mRNA vaccinations. Please don't read them and continue to trust this organization. Honestly I'm sure it's far to time consuming to do actual research regarding this topic and use 100% verifiably information to form your opinions. Just trust the CDC they know best.

What do you believe are the most convincing finds of the FOIA which lead you to distrust the CDC?

I was curious, took a bit to dig up info I believe it's this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cdc-redacts-myocarditis-study/

Anyways, it's not a secret that the vaccine comes with a tiny increased risk of myocarditis, that's not some super secret no one is saying. BUT here's the rub covid 19 comes with a hugely increased risk of mycarditis, much more than the vaccine. And if people were dying in job lots from the vaccine, we'd have seen that by now. And we'd have seen increased death rates in democrats from it if it were the case. Instead, we've seen excess deaths from covid 19 that lean more republican because of lack of vaccine.

1badmf wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 04:37:
i don't need to read them to figure out that you're one of those dipshits who thinks vaccines are bad cuz they have mercury in them.

The fact that he didn't link us just tells you the quality of his sources. Inevitably, they're intentionally misunderstanding something

31% of Republicans say vaccines are more dangerous than diseases they prevent

How have we sunk this low?

ShadowofWard wrote on Aug 13, 2024, 03:00:
Seems like some of the Blue News readers are blissfully unaware of the recent Freedom of Information Act and the CDC documents regarding the mRNA vaccinations. Please don't read them and continue to trust this organization. Honestly I'm sure it's far to time consuming to do actual research regarding this topic and use 100% verifiably information to form your opinions. Just trust the CDC they know best.

What do you believe are the most convincing finds of the FOIA which lead you to distrust the CDC?

i don't need to read them to figure out that you're one of those dipshits who thinks vaccines are bad cuz they have mercury in them.

Seems like some of the Blue News readers are blissfully unaware of the recent Freedom of Information Act and the CDC documents regarding the mRNA vaccinations. Please don't read them and continue to trust this organization. Honestly I'm sure it's far to time consuming to do actual research regarding this topic and use 100% verifiably information to form your opinions. Just trust the CDC they know best.

RedEye9 wrote on Aug 12, 2024, 19:40:
Bear, if you're listening.
It's hard to believe this fruitcake thought he could be president.

their leading candidate is objectively dumber than this. and they love him for it

RedEye9 wrote on Aug 12, 2024, 19:40:
Bear, if you're listening.
It's hard to believe this fruitcake thought he could be president.

You say as you prepare to usher in another fruit cake for presidential candidacy...who was president before.

Bear, if you're listening.
It's hard to believe this fruitcake thought he could be president.