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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 9, 2024, 13:15
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 9, 2024, 13:15
Jul 9, 2024, 13:15
 
Woohoo Firefox 128 Released!!!
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/128.0/releasenotes/
from the changelog
Fixed: Memory Caching Leak- Firefox will now use all available memory when viewing one or more youtubes.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 9, 2024, 00:39
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 9, 2024, 00:39
Jul 9, 2024, 00:39
 
Firefox is like DDG. Yeah, philosophically its great, practically speaking, not so much. I want to use it on my tablet when I travel but it's slow as fucking molasses. A lot of times I can't even get pages to load properly. I finally just gave up on it on my tablet or phone entirely. Even using it as my main browser on my PC is chore a lot of the time with how many websites it doesn't work well with. So give me a reason - like it actually works well and fast - to like it.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 17:53
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 17:53
Jul 8, 2024, 17:53
 
Firefox definitely had massive issues with YouTube playback for many users, myself included, prior to 127.02. These issues actually felt like a memory leak because the more you used YT, the worse the performance degradation became. It was really terribad. Honestly. Constant (unrecoverable) hangs, stutters, spinning loading wheelie of infinity... it sucked.

In hindsight, I actually feel slightly (very slightly... Wink ) sorry for blaming Google shenanigans on the poor performance of Firefox all these months when it turned out it was all a Firefox inherent problem. I actually installed Brave in the meantime just for browsing YouTube because any and all issues with YT went away immediately when I used a different browser like Edge or Brave.

Then came along version 127.02 and *boom* YouTube returned to being usable again on Firefox BUT we still have some way to go for a perfect or flawless experience so if Mozilla wants me to like Firefox more again (Chrome spyware is naturally completely out of the question for me) then they need to continue fixing the performance, especially when it comes to YouTube and 4K video playback. There is still quite some room for improvement.

And, no, I'm not an extension junkie or anything. I only use DarkReader, uBlock and the LEO dictionary extensions for my Fox. That's it. The issues were definitely caused by FF versions before 127.02.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 16:25
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 16:25
Jul 8, 2024, 16:25
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 15:36:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:11:
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.

Found it and confirmed it with two other users on three different OSes.

Type in "about:processes" in the address field and then change memory usage to show highest to lowest.

None of us have any extensions in common except for uBlock Origin but the culprit appears to be leaving ten or more tabs with YouTube open for extended lengths of time. 24+ hours. One of my minions did a quick and dirty tracedump and their finding was that Firefox seems to be constantly caching data. Even data that has already been cached.

FF version is 127.0.2.

Sidenote: Mozilla missed a golden opportunity to release a 127.0.0.1 version.

I have Firefox on 3 PCs, two Win10 and one Linux. I don't use it as heavily on the others as I do on this PC. I rarely bother closing Firefox and generally have a dozen or so tabs open, but I do have about:unloads set as my home page and unload them before gaming. On the other PCs, I only open Firefox when I need it, open one or two tabs and then close it when done.

It looks like Firefox has been going for two days on this PC. I used the about:processes, and currently total memory usage is 280MB. The biggest user is bluesnews.com is taking up 140MB. About an hour ago had a window open which had YouTube and several videos open in tabs.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 16:22
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 16:22
Jul 8, 2024, 16:22
 
I will urge you to download Floorp . It is based on the Mozilla/Firefox engine but it is insanely fast. It's the speed equivalent of going from 720p to 4K !
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 15:54
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 15:54
Jul 8, 2024, 15:54
 
On my main (Windows) machine, I've uninstalled Edge (and Webview) to use Waterfox.
As a plan B, I use a portable version of ungoogled Chromium.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 15:36
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 15:36
Jul 8, 2024, 15:36
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:11:
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.

Found it and confirmed it with two other users on three different OSes.

Type in "about:processes" in the address field and then change memory usage to show highest to lowest.

None of us have any extensions in common except for uBlock Origin but the culprit appears to be leaving ten or more tabs with YouTube open for extended lengths of time. 24+ hours. One of my minions did a quick and dirty tracedump and their finding was that Firefox seems to be constantly caching data. Even data that has already been cached.

FF version is 127.0.2.

Sidenote: Mozilla missed a golden opportunity to release a 127.0.0.1 version.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 15:22
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 15:22
Jul 8, 2024, 15:22
 
I switched from Chrome to Firefox after my last job and don't regret it at all. I'm done with Google. I'm not seeing any memory leak with multiple tabs on Win10
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 14:06
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 14:06
Jul 8, 2024, 14:06
 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Memory+leak
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 13:57
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 13:57
Jul 8, 2024, 13:57
 
Bludd wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:50:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:11:
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.
im not seeing that on windows 11 and firefox127.0.2 (64-bit) and i have more than 23 up, maybe an extension that is misbehaving?
I'm not having problems with it on Win10 either. I currently only have 17 tabs open, and it shows 36 in my recently closed tabs list.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 13:49
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 13:49
Jul 8, 2024, 13:49
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:11:
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.
What are you complaining about, that’s not even a gigabyte a page.😱
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 13:35
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 13:35
Jul 8, 2024, 13:35
 
Prez wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 13:22:
I'm not what you would call a power user, but Mozilla is my browser of choice. I have to use Brave on my phone for a very important reason that I am currently not remembering, otherwise I would have it on mobile as well.
Same. I've written a few extensions for Firefox that, even if it weren't objectively true that it's the best desktop browser on the planet (it is, fite me), make it far more powerful and uncompromising than other browsers. Chrome in particular is a massive leaking memory hog and basically always has been. Brave is a great mobile browser though and quite similar to Firefox. It may be worth noting that I use Firefox Developer Edition on my desktops, but I don't think that changes matters all that much.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 13:22
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 13:22
Jul 8, 2024, 13:22
 Prez
 
I'm not what you would call a power user, but Mozilla is my browser of choice. I have to use Brave on my phone for a very important reason that I am currently not remembering, otherwise I would have it on mobile as well.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 12:50
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 12:50
Jul 8, 2024, 12:50
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 8, 2024, 12:11:
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.
im not seeing that on windows 11 and firefox127.0.2 (64-bit) and i have more than 23 up, maybe an extension that is misbehaving?
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jul 8, 2024, 12:11
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jul 8, 2024, 12:11
Jul 8, 2024, 12:11
 
What I want Mozilla to like is fixing the memory leak introduced in the most recent version. With 23 tabs open over the course of less than a day, it managed to hoover up 42 gigs out of 64.
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