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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 6, 2024, 01:09
NKD
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 6, 2024, 01:09
Jun 6, 2024, 01:09
NKD
 
Prez wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 15:31:
People, PLEASE stop feeding the trolls.

For real. Though it seems weird to me that it's apparently chill for someone to just openly declare they are here to troll and cause trouble and not get a talking to.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 16:32
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 16:32
Jun 5, 2024, 16:32
 
Bodolza wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 15:04:
RogueSix wrote on Jun 4, 2024, 19:55:
"Culture"?
LOL yeah you keep telling yourself that

Get over yourself. You -- nor is anyone else on this board -- the arbitrator of what is or is not deemed "culture".

As a true man of culture, I am in fact the authority on what constitutes culture. This is non-negotiable, too.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 15:31
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 15:31
Jun 5, 2024, 15:31
 Prez
 
People, PLEASE stop feeding the trolls.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 15:04
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 15:04
Jun 5, 2024, 15:04
 
RogueSix wrote on Jun 4, 2024, 19:55:
"Culture"?
LOL yeah you keep telling yourself that

Get over yourself. You -- nor is anyone else on this board -- the arbitrator of what is or is not deemed "culture".
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 12:31
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 12:31
Jun 5, 2024, 12:31
 Prez
 
Did anyone besides the dev in the story say that? Or are you speaking in general? It would be hard to know that those 2 disparate things are said by the same people to my mind. I generally don't go back in history to verify possible disparities in thinking, and my memory is pretty terrible. Even then what if they have since altered their opinion?

Just to add, I find regional pricing to be an effective counter to leaving poor people with the only choice being either pirate it or don't play it. I always got the impression that the argument against regional pricing was that it can be abused by people using a VPN. Recently it was reported that Steam banned a bunch of accounts that were shown to have used a VPN to circumvent the PSN requirement. (I think I am remembering that right). Meaning that using a VPN is a risk. In my case a $40k+ risk! No thanks.

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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 12:25
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 12:25
Jun 5, 2024, 12:25
 
I always find it fun when people, and not saying anyone in particular here, are against regional pricing but ok with "if you can't afford it, just pirate it."
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 11:48
Jim
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 11:48
Jun 5, 2024, 11:48
Jim
 
video games are culture. you see tv adaptations all the time, cosplay events, board game adaptations, "gaming" hardware, figures, toys, plushies, masks, memes, etc.
why else do people blame shootings on video games? Theoretically because murder in games has become a part of culture.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 11:47
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 11:47
Jun 5, 2024, 11:47
 
NKD wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 09:12:
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 06:57:
Not all artists, musicians, developers, writers have the luxury of giving away their hard work for free.

Which is why this person isn't giving away his work for free. He's saying he doesn't care if poor people pirate it who couldn't have bought it anyway.
It always amazes me how many ”smart” people manage to reach the first point, without being able to fire a single neuron to reach the second point.

There is a significant portion of the population who will never pay for a thing because they cannot. That number is growing rapidly, and until some rich get eaten, will continue. The developer clearly has a brain capable of recognizing that denying the poor culture because of the predatory actions of the ultra wealthy is an act of evil, and states his opinion on the matter.

Will it get the predatory middlemen out of the industry, and into the cookpots where they belong? No, but at least he’s on the correct aide of things.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 11:34
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 11:34
Jun 5, 2024, 11:34
 
Flatline wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 11:20:
Funny that you've posted over 2000 times for the last 4 years over something that you take such a dim view of. For something that's so shallow you spend a *lot* of time focused on it.
Trolls gotta troll.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 11:20
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 11:20
Jun 5, 2024, 11:20
 
RogueSix wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 05:08:
Video games have nothing to do with "culture". They are shallow entertainment products and many of them not even particularly good ones. Like, how is anyone even supposed to take a game called "ULTRAKILL" serious? The joke writes itself when this dweeb is referring to games like his own as "culture". ULTRAKILL IS CULTURE. Yeah, sure, buddy...

Funny that you've posted over 2000 times for the last 4 years over something that you take such a dim view of. For something that's so shallow you spend a *lot* of time focused on it.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 11:18
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 11:18
Jun 5, 2024, 11:18
 
Nereke wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 05:56:
To say that video games aren’t a part of culture is wrong, and obviously so. Mario? Pokémon? World of Warcraft?

WoW? You mean people raiding in diapers shitting and pissing themselves is "culture"? Or people running about like headless chicken on amphetamines hunting for virtual pokemon critters is somehow "culture"? And what exactly is "cultural" about a jump and run plumber?

Duuude?
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 10:23
Jim
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 10:23
Jun 5, 2024, 10:23
Jim
 
I don't understand the drama. Pirates are going to pirate. UItrakill came out in 2020.
Steam reviews are overwhelmingly positive, recent and past.
Piracy can be viewed as being a type of advertising.
Some people may like the game and buy it.
Others may like it and talk about the game.
It gets the game into more hands, creates more buzz.
You can certainly make the claim that piracy hurts AA/AAA games, but for indies, I think it is probably very positive overall.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 09:53
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 09:53
Jun 5, 2024, 09:53
 
I think that if you've got the spare time to play games, and you have the spare change to buy something to play those games on (and/or access the Internet), then you'll be able to find enough quarters between the sofa cushions to buy your software. Looking at the article, this fellow isn't too confident of his game, apparently. Even dimwitted communists (are there any left?) know that "The laborer is worth his hire," and "to each according to his needs," etc. An even trade? Suppose nobody buys it? I think he might do better with a free demo, instead.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 09:30
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 09:30
Jun 5, 2024, 09:30
 Prez
 
NKD wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 09:12:
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 06:57:
Not all artists, musicians, developers, writers have the luxury of giving away their hard work for free.

Which is why this person isn't giving away his work for free. He's saying he doesn't care if poor people pirate it who couldn't have bought it anyway.

I will never understand why people who aren't potentially losing money become so emotional about this issue while a dude who clearly could potentially be losing money because of this is like "Cool. Let someone know you like it if you can".
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 09:12
NKD
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 09:12
Jun 5, 2024, 09:12
NKD
 
Saboth wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 06:57:
Not all artists, musicians, developers, writers have the luxury of giving away their hard work for free.

Which is why this person isn't giving away his work for free. He's saying he doesn't care if poor people pirate it who couldn't have bought it anyway.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 07:50
Prez
 
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 07:50
Jun 5, 2024, 07:50
 Prez
 
Ultrakill absolutely is culture. To think that it isn't indicates that you are a short-sighted, immature, arrogant elitist.

The funny thing to me is that many people will think that his outlook is that of a naive developer who doesn't know how to business, when in actuality he is one of the tiny fraction of people in business who haven't yet been brainwashed by blind capitalism.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 06:57
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 06:57
Jun 5, 2024, 06:57
 
Not all artists, musicians, developers, writers have the luxury of giving away their hard work for free. Time is money and many people sink thousands of hours and even thousands of their own dollars into their content creation. What I find is many pirates who claim they are too poor to afford games can afford them just fine. They just prefer free things because they feel entitled to them and think they are "pulling one over" on the system by pirating.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 05:56
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 05:56
Jun 5, 2024, 05:56
 
To say that video games aren’t a part of culture is wrong, and obviously so. Mario? Pokémon? World of Warcraft?
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 05:08
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 05:08
Jun 5, 2024, 05:08
 
Shteve wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 03:04:
RogueSix wrote on Jun 4, 2024, 19:55:
"Culture"?

LOL yeah you keep telling yourself that
Did you read more than the headline?

Yes.

Video games have nothing to do with "culture". They are shallow entertainment products and many of them not even particularly good ones. Like, how is anyone even supposed to take a game called "ULTRAKILL" serious? The joke writes itself when this dweeb is referring to games like his own as "culture". ULTRAKILL IS CULTURE. Yeah, sure, buddy...

Secondly, the article, as usual for PC Gamer that fucking rag, is full of fake news like here:

For years now, we've been living in an era where Denuvo gets cracked so quickly for new games that it's not even worth running a headline about it.

^ This is obviously wishful thinking on part of the uninformed editor of the article. The opposite is true. Denuvo has been holding up remarkably well. There is only one major group (Empress) who used to bother with Denuvo at all which is already a smashing success because everyone else gave up on cracking Denuvo, and as far as I have heard, they went on a pretty long hiatus just recently and did not even bother to crack many recent games, or if they did, at a glacial pace of one game every x months. There seems to be a new group called DELUSIONAL who are continuing Empress' criminal activities but on a pretty low scale and also very slowly so far.

For example, according to this link, as of early April, not a single Denuvo protected game of 2024 had been cracked so far and the list of uncracked 2023 Denuvo games is actually longer than the list of cracked 2023 Denuvo games.
Many Denuvo protected games (yes, not all, unfortunately) are also only cracked months after release so Denuvo does its job of protecting games during the critical release window exceptionally well.
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Re: Quoteworthy
Jun 5, 2024, 03:53
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Re: Quoteworthy Jun 5, 2024, 03:53
Jun 5, 2024, 03:53
 
Shteve wrote on Jun 5, 2024, 03:04:
RogueSix wrote on Jun 4, 2024, 19:55:
"Culture"?

LOL yeah you keep telling yourself that
Did you read more than the headline?

Extremely obvious that he did not.
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