Ozmodan wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 22:09:
I watched the first episode and stopped. Just another mediocre series. I was not impressed.

I agree with you about the first episode. It gets a lot better though and by the end I was glad I watched it.

Karepi wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 14:46:
No BG3, for sure, but funny that Starfield is considered a "hot cow manure" being one of the better RPGs released in recent time.

It's really not. Apart from the often mentioned tedium of the procedurally generated content, the fast travel that negates the "Star" part of Starfield, the dull characters and awful models, the actual backbone of an RPG, the setting and story, were also utter shit.

Just as an example, one major questline is based on a shady corporation flogging fake fertilizers to farmers that concentrates the minerals in the soil, so said shady corporation can then hire mercs to run them off their land and mine it for cheap.

It's a setting with space travel so cheap companies sell spaceships to the weekend holidaying family market. It has hundreds of star systems that nobody claims and thousands of worlds nobody has ever mined. It has easy access to asteroids containing trillions of tons of raw materials. There is no logical argument for this cunning scheme to exist in this setting.

The sheer dissonance between that questline and the actual setting of the game itself is extreme. It's like it was written completely separately from the game it was dropped into and nobody with even a vague interest in quality control took any notice of it. That's the kind of thing that makes for a crap RPG.

I'd only be interested in a FO5 if it was something beyond the Bethesda formula. Look at the evolution of the Witcher games. Each entry improved everything about the previous. There's no doubt Witcher 4 will be amazing as well. Instead I'm afraid FO5 will just be FO3 again with some new features and better graphics.

I watched the first episode and stopped. Just another mediocre series. I was not impressed.

There's no way they, or anyone else, can get a full new Fallout game out in a year or two. I expect to see remasters of all the existing properties. Remakes with the latest greatest tech I would be down with but that's a hard pass on remasters. They'd still sell a ton of remasters though.

Saboth wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 14:17:
I'll never understand having hot IPs that sell millions of guaranteed copies, like Fallout and Skyrim, and just sitting on them for decades as fans clamor to give you money and you say, "Nah." It's like if a new Madden game came out every 10 years.

Right? Look how awesome the Marvel movies and Star wars are now that there are yearly releases.. it was a genius move when HBO decided all shows would be DC super hero’s. Like just keep regenerating the same shit and make so much money

Mods don't 'fix' Bethesda's writing and quests. You can only put so much lipstick on it, still the same thing in Fallout 4. I wish some other company could get their hands on the license. Larian, CD Red, Obsidian, anyone. I'm tired of Fallout just being a dumb theme park express ride, oh, now with building mechanics.

Hopefully Bethesda is being as oblivious as they usually are and aren't reading all of the calls to launch another Fallout quickly. They can't do anything quickly. They can't do anything slowly without releasing a buggy mess that needs to be fixed by modders. If you loved the Fallout show and want to experience the world, play 76. I'm told that it is finally good after years of patching.

Can you imagine the amount of "I told you that we should have been working on Fallout 5 instead of Starfield, but no one listened" going on at Bethesda? 🤣

Karepi wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 14:46:
No BG3, for sure, but funny that Starfield is considered a "hot cow manure" being one of the better RPGs released in recent time.

Hard disagree, compared to New Vegas and its modern competition, it's an unpolished turd.

Darks wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 11:06:
Ill bet you that they are now rushing to get one done Intime for Season 2.

Oh boy... That's gonna be ugly.

No BG3, for sure, but funny that Starfield is considered a "hot cow manure" being one of the better RPGs released in recent time.

Skuggasveinn wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 11:24:
They took 7-8 years to develop Starfield, and that was a hot cow manure.
So I can't even imagine what kind of a clown show Todd and Co. at Bethesda could vomit up if they would rush a new Fallout game.
The best scenario I can think up is that they don't rush Fallout 5, but instead get someone to remake Fallout 1 and 2, isometric and all.
That way you don't need to write anything, the plot is already in place, the characters etc. They could make it modern using 3d models from assets already in Fallout 3,4 and 76 but keep it isometric and turned based, playable on modern systems.
I would buy that on the spot.

*looks at watch*

Incoming announcement from MS that Obsidian or/and Inexile going to start work on a FO SP game in 5... 4... 3...

I'll never understand having hot IPs that sell millions of guaranteed copies, like Fallout and Skyrim, and just sitting on them for decades as fans clamor to give you money and you say, "Nah." It's like if a new Madden game came out every 10 years.

Skuggasveinn wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 11:24:

Darks wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 11:06:
Ill bet you that they are now rushing to get one done Intime for Season 2.

They took 7-8 years to develop Starfield, and that was a hot cow manure.
So I can't even imagine what kind of a clown show Todd and Co. at Bethesda could vomit up if they would rush a new Fallout game.
The best scenario I can think up is that they don't rush Fallout 5, but instead get someone to remake Fallout 1 and 2, isometric and all.
That way you don't need to write anything, the plot is already in place, the characters etc. They could make it modern using 3d models from assets already in Fallout 3,4 and 76 but keep it isometric and turned based, playable on modern systems.
I would buy that on the spot.

But where is the recurrent user spending in that?! How dare you attempt a logical game design without thinking of the important money maker aspects? /s

In a serious note, I would love if they did that. Revisit the old stuff in a new engine? Count me in. That is why mods that are redoing the old Isometric Fallouts have a cult following now. There is definitely a demand for it.

Darks wrote on Apr 30, 2024, 11:06:
Ill bet you that they are now rushing to get one done Intime for Season 2.

They took 7-8 years to develop Starfield, and that was a hot cow manure.
So I can't even imagine what kind of a clown show Todd and Co. at Bethesda could vomit up if they would rush a new Fallout game.
The best scenario I can think up is that they don't rush Fallout 5, but instead get someone to remake Fallout 1 and 2, isometric and all.
That way you don't need to write anything, the plot is already in place, the characters etc. They could make it modern using 3d models from assets already in Fallout 3,4 and 76 but keep it isometric and turned based, playable on modern systems.
I would buy that on the spot.

Ill bet you that they are now rushing to get one done Intime for Season 2.