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Happy 420 Day, the annual celebration of cannabis culture. Attitudes towards jazz cabbage have softened greatly over course of the nearly three decades of Blue's News. When this site started in the mid-90s there was even a crackdown underway in New York City, where it had already been decriminalized. Nowadays grass is legal in 24 states, almost half the US. This includes my home state of New York, where it was legalized in 2021. But feel free to joke that whoever is in charge of this is on the pot themselves, as rollout has been glacial. So while there are dispensaries all over New York City, most of the rest of the state is lagging far behind. That's too bad, as marijuana has proven to be helpful in so many cases, from easing chronic pain, to helping with insomnia, to making Adam Sandler movies funny. So hopefully they'll work this out.

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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 12:57
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 12:57
Apr 21, 2024, 12:57
 
I thought the PFA article was going to be about the cranberry juice company
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 12:27
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 12:27
Apr 21, 2024, 12:27
 
The Flying Penguin wrote on Apr 21, 2024, 11:50:
Also, someone explain to me what a 'highly resolving' audio system is? I have never heard of the term. Sounds like magic juju nonsense. High definition, maybe?
It's from the company that makes these and that will tell you all you need to know. https://www.ecoustics.com/products/ps-audio-aspen-fr30-loudspeakers/
https://www.psaudio.com/
I'm plugging my powered speakers into this to be on the safe side https://www.psaudio.com/collections/power-regenerators
"I expect death to be nothingness and by removing from me all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism." Isaac Asimov
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 12:15
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 12:15
Apr 21, 2024, 12:15
 
The Flying Penguin wrote on Apr 21, 2024, 11:50:
Also, someone explain to me what a 'highly resolving' audio system is? I have never heard of the term. Sounds like magic juju nonsense. High definition, maybe?

Corinthian Audio
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 11:50
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 11:50
Apr 21, 2024, 11:50
 
Oh man, don't google 'cable lifters' unless you want to dive deep into a rat hole. I never knew this was a thing.

As a former sound engineer (granted, not an audiophile - I mainly did concert work) I call BS. These are probably the same people that think they can hear a difference between in low oxygen speaker cables (spoiler, all it does is prevent corrosion, it doesn't do a damn thing for audio quality, unless of course you're comparing it to rusty cables) or that gold plated connectors sound better than copper.

Also, someone explain to me what a 'highly resolving' audio system is? I have never heard of the term. Sounds like magic juju nonsense. High definition, maybe?
"Turns out I’m 'woke.' All along, I thought I was just compassionate, kind, and good at history. "
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 11:40
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 11:40
Apr 21, 2024, 11:40
 
I wanted some cheaper speakers that were portable for my gaming setup and I found a set on Amazon that got decent reviews.

But I ran across this YouTube video, the text is mine.
The difference in sound quality is 89.7% but it goes up 0.212db if the insulation on the speaker wire is paisley. Plus, everyone knows that the only way to fully balance the harmonics and create optimum sound stage dispersal is to elevate AND, and i repeat AND, separate the power wire from the incoming cooling lines (whether they be plastic, brass or cloth). Please Note: The preceding does not apply if you live in the Southern Hemisphere. https://youtu.be/FLOY1Rebq2Q
"I expect death to be nothingness and by removing from me all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism." Isaac Asimov
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 10:58
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 10:58
Apr 21, 2024, 10:58
 
I never take my chin for granted, especially when shaving...

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I am a regular faster, but not because I think there's any major juju, it's just that's the way my body works and how I keep my calorie intake low.

I have never liked eating breakfast, even as a child, and it would drive my mom crazy because, you know, in the 60s nutrition guides said children needed to eat a big breakfast.

The three meals a day nonsense is mostly a western cultural invention, and a large part of the world's population only eat twice a day, or even once a day in some places.

I normally don't eat until 1 or 2pm. Only thing I have in the morning is coffee, and maybe, if the stomach is grumbling, a 60 calorie yogurt or some fruit, but most often I don't like eating until 2pm.

I work out every morning (yes every morning solid), right after feeding the cats and cleaning the litter, and before coffee, in my home gym, minimum 15 minutes with no break (mix of upper and lower body), I try for 30 minutes when I have the time and willing. It was hard to get on that schedule initially but now it's second nature. I don't feel good if I miss a morning workout due to an appointment, and will make up for it in the PM.

If I'm with family or friends who want to go out for lunch or a late breakfast, then I keep it light.

A light meal for lunch, soup, or a half a sandwich, or if I'm in a mood, just fruit or salad. If my mind is preoccupied with a project, or I'm out working on the property, I may even skip lunch and wait for dinner, or just drink a protein shake, or eat some nuts.

Dinner is my main meal, but we like to eat early. By 6pm I'm not interested in eating anymore. I like a good steak every 2 weeks or so (something very lean like a filet mignon), or fish, chicken, or a big salad, but never anything fried. Wife and I do love going out for gourmet meals, but gourmet does not have to be 2000+ calories.

Despite being 63, and most of my contemporaries having large bellies, I maintain my target weight of 240 lbs (at 6' 4"). I do have a bit of beer belly, because I refuse to give up the pleasures of beer, wine, and a good whiskey. Any time I grumble about my belly, I compare myself to people 10 years younger than me in the store, who can't see their own feet because their bellies are so huge, and I feel good again. Fact is I work my abs pretty hard, but at some point your abs just push out the fat in front of them, and when you're over 55, for most people, it's pretty hard to have a flat belly without working at it a lot harder than I'm willing to.


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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 10:13
Prez
 
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 10:13
Apr 21, 2024, 10:13
 Prez
 
I'm not kidding when I say that for your first two paragraphs, I honestly thought you were trying to defend me for being that way. Yeah, it's one of those days I guess...
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
- Mahatma Gandhi
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 09:35
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 09:35
Apr 21, 2024, 09:35
 
As you get older you progressively lose mental acuity, like having a just awakened fog but permanent.
There are people whose whole life is thus, they don't have that ability, a sort of mental tone deafness.

They can't discern, discard and collate data to save their lives, as proved by hundreds of thousands who died for that lack and their dumb decisions.

They just amalgamate with like minded groups and parrot faithfully one inconsistent contradictory conspiracy after another like gospel (religions aren't that far away) without any real understanding of what they repeat.

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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 08:37
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 08:37
Apr 21, 2024, 08:37
 
Some people just don't think very deeply, because that may make them realize they're not correct. So it's easier to oversimplify and assume everyone else is dumb.

Even when the data is presented in an obvious manner, and comorbidities have been explained for 4 years. And when the data you choose to offer has nothing to do with your initial statement of car accidents and unsafe vaccines
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 04:18
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 04:18
Apr 21, 2024, 04:18
 Prez
 
This is how information tends to work. I used to smoke heavily. I started developing COPD, so I quit. The single incident that was the catalyst for me doing this was, one morning while driving to work, I had a severe coughing fit that had become extremely prevalent because I was smoking heavily. I ended up becoming so lightheaded and so disoriented that I crashed into a parked car.

So my incident could statistically be boiled down to smoking caused an increase in car accidents. Without context, it sounds ridiculous. But when you dismiss information as ridiculous without the necessary context, you're going to be wrong an awful lot of the time. When you use hyperbole to make your argument not sound dumb, you've already lost.
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
- Mahatma Gandhi
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 00:54
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 00:54
Apr 21, 2024, 00:54
 
opie wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 23:47:
ask and receive.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a4.htm#T1_down
table 2.

1 COVID-19 (U07.1) 186,702 (76.2) (how is this not 100%? and what? only 186K deaths from "a flu"? i thought there were 1 million!!! hahahah)
3 Cancer (C00-C97) 9,579 (3.9)
6 Alzheimer disease (G30) 3,112 (1.3)
7 Unintentional injuries (V01–X59 and Y85–Y86) 2,572 (1.0)

wait for the "well, it isn't that many, so I'm still right" comment.

I am not a doctor or even very smart but I think you are reading it incorrectly. As referenced on the link you provided. It isn't simply 'car accidents', it includes a few incidents where breathing would be an issue. Such as 'overexertion' or 'accidental threats to breathing', where covid could certainly be a factor. It also looks like those cause of death codes in Table 2 specifically exclude the codes X60-X84 for self harm.

I could be mistaken, but that's how I read it.
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 00:37
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 00:37
Apr 21, 2024, 00:37
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opie wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 23:47:
ask and receive.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a4.htm#T1_down
table 2.

1 COVID-19 (U07.1) 186,702 (76.2) (how is this not 100%? and what? only 186K deaths from "a flu"? i thought there were 1 million!!! hahahah)
3 Cancer (C00-C97) 9,579 (3.9)
6 Alzheimer disease (G30) 3,112 (1.3)
7 Unintentional injuries (V01–X59 and Y85–Y86) 2,572 (1.0)

wait for the "well, it isn't that many, so I'm still right" comment.

You said 'why are suicides and car accidents listed among the "cause of death was COVID" count?', but that is not what that table is about. That table is "leading underlying causes of death [...] for COVID-19–associated deaths". Cause-of-death and condition-associated-death are not the same thing.

And why isn't it a million? Because that's data for 2022 only.

Looking forward to how you make a "so I'm still right" comment out of your comprehensive failure to understand data, or apparently the concept of a year.
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 21, 2024, 00:19
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 21, 2024, 00:19
Apr 21, 2024, 00:19
 
Umm, happy 420? 🍟🍕🍔🥓🥨🌮🌭

Edit: damn, was 19 minutes late
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 23:47
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 20, 2024, 23:47
Apr 20, 2024, 23:47
 
Cutter wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 21:22:
opie wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 17:19:
why are suicides and car accidents listed among the "cause of death was COVID" count?

Okay, let's see it because unless you have some direct links to the CDC claiming that, that is some major league bullshit right there. Suicide on the other hand is perfectly valid. Hell, there was a multimillionaire in Texas - worth about 600 mil+ - who blew his brains out because he developed tinnitus because of Covid - common thing that's happened to many Covid sufferers. I'm sure long Covid has probably driven quite a few people to suicide. When my neurological condition manifested that's the closest I've ever been to killing myself. And that's a terrifying goddamned thing. I didn't want to die, but I couldn't see how I could go on suffering as I was. If it wasn't for the "magic" of modern medicine - anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, benzodiazepines, et al. - I probably would have. Worse still, I may have gone on a killing spree as a big fuck you to the world. I mean, why not if I'm going out anyway. It's not like there's a shortage of deserving targets in this world. The difference is I would have gone after the captains of industry and all the other rich and powerful shitheels who make life so miserable for all other life on this planet. I wish more people who were checking out and looking to settle scores would do that instead of taking it out on the rank and file who have zero actual power to speak of.

ask and receive.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a4.htm#T1_down
table 2.

1 COVID-19 (U07.1) 186,702 (76.2) (how is this not 100%? and what? only 186K deaths from "a flu"? i thought there were 1 million!!! hahahah)
3 Cancer (C00-C97) 9,579 (3.9)
6 Alzheimer disease (G30) 3,112 (1.3)
7 Unintentional injuries (V01–X59 and Y85–Y86) 2,572 (1.0)

wait for the "well, it isn't that many, so I'm still right" comment.


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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 23:29
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 20, 2024, 23:29
Apr 20, 2024, 23:29
 
I eat once a day and no more than 1800 calories. I'm never hungry and must remind myself to eat some days. My various posts over the last couple of years show I'm not wholly sedentary and even if I wasn't active of my own volition, my dog certainly wouldn't allow me to be.

I've lost a ton of weight without "dieting" or becoming a gym rat. I'm far from "half-starved". I've quite literally never been healthier.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 23:17
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 21:43
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Apr 20, 2024, 21:43
 
RogueSix wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 16:37:
Um, no Wink . That is just simply being half starved to death, in many cases exacerbated by injuries and physical or mental abuse. The POWs usually had to walk many miles to their camps (many died on the way) so they burned tons of cals on their arduous marches.
What makes you think they were in a state of ketosis? That would require a considerable intake of fats. Fatty food was a precious resource and reserved for the troops back then. Those POWs got scraps for food. Maybe a slice of bread or some soup but they were typically treated like shit with absolute minimum provisions. No one wanted to waste precious resources and logistics on the enemy. They were actually hoping that most would never make it alive to the POW camps.

No, that's a combination of work and eating once, maybe a twice a day. Yeah, they were undernourished for sure but the end result is still the same, the body feeding on fat, not glucose. They grew food to support themselves and their camps occupiers, they got packages from the Red Cross, etc. At least in Europe, Japanese prisoners had it bad I'll admit. Regardless once they got back onto three squares a day it doesn't take long to pack on the pounds.

Before the pandemic I was in a good place. I worked out every other day, was eating mostly clean/vegetarian. Doing some IF. Over the course of a year I went from 240 - I'm 6ft and endomorphic - think linebacker build - to 180 then back up to 200, but solid. That was really exchanging 60lbs of fat for 20lbs of muscle. I wasn't ripped or anything, but I was cut and solid and strong. And that's the sort of thing that's really noticable to people you know especially who haven't seen you in a while - 'Whoa! Holy cow you look good, man!' I could never diet that intensely in order to be ripped. I just like pizza too much. Once I get moved, I'll be setting up a home gym and get back to that. Maybe even some powerlifting. I will always maintain however that fasting is good for our species beyond vanity or anything else.
"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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Apr 20, 2024, 21:31
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theglaze wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 19:09:
Many people eat for reasons other than 'hunger', plus they instinctually feed the beast to stop grumbles.

But the stomach is like a factory staffed with a union... it always wants work, refuses to downsize, and complains loudly. Cave into its relentless demands and you'll create problems elsewhere (like excess weight.) But YOU are not your stomach, in fact, it operates normally even in those with severe injuries (vegetative state) with little to no direction from the brain. So the trick is to distinguish between real hunger, and the bullshit signals you're reacting to or inventing.

When you get into the habit of regular fasting it becomes easier the more you do it. And yeah, a lot of eating is habit or boredom. I remember watching a show with a guy - ex-Marine combat vet - who dropped out of society and went and lived in the wild. He said when he had first got there it was a hard adjustment. He was about 220lbs at the time, but a year later he was down to a solid buck eighty, which he attributed to eating only when he actually needed to vs. when he wanted to/or to alleviate boredom. Starting fasting is a PITA, but as you continue to do it it really does get easier as you go along. You really don't miss "grazing" all the time.
"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 21:22
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 20, 2024, 21:22
Apr 20, 2024, 21:22
 
opie wrote on Apr 20, 2024, 17:19:
why are suicides and car accidents listed among the "cause of death was COVID" count?

Okay, let's see it because unless you have some direct links to the CDC claiming that, that is some major league bullshit right there. Suicide on the other hand is perfectly valid. Hell, there was a multimillionaire in Texas - worth about 600 mil+ - who blew his brains out because he developed tinnitus because of Covid - common thing that's happened to many Covid sufferers. I'm sure long Covid has probably driven quite a few people to suicide. When my neurological condition manifested that's the closest I've ever been to killing myself. And that's a terrifying goddamned thing. I didn't want to die, but I couldn't see how I could go on suffering as I was. If it wasn't for the "magic" of modern medicine - anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, benzodiazepines, et al. - I probably would have. Worse still, I may have gone on a killing spree as a big fuck you to the world. I mean, why not if I'm going out anyway. It's not like there's a shortage of deserving targets in this world. The difference is I would have gone after the captains of industry and all the other rich and powerful shitheels who make life so miserable for all other life on this planet. I wish more people who were checking out and looking to settle scores would do that instead of taking it out on the rank and file who have zero actual power to speak of.

"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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Re: OotB: 420
Apr 20, 2024, 21:16
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Re: OotB: 420 Apr 20, 2024, 21:16
Apr 20, 2024, 21:16
 
So many dipsticks arguing in this thread ignoring the real truth: the earth IS flat.
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