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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 30, 2024, 05:04
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 30, 2024, 05:04
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Prez wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 21:18:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 20:17:
Prez wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 17:09:
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I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

Well, in the end, I approve. Not because I support silencing dissenting opinions, but because after a while all that really matters is focusing on what we share in common or healthy debate about non-political shit.

Exactly. It is fundamentally not healthy and leads to absolutely nothing.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 29, 2024, 21:18
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 29, 2024, 21:18
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eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 20:17:
Prez wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 17:09:
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I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

Well, in the end, I approve. Not because I support silencing dissenting opinions, but because after a while all that really matters is focusing on what we share in common or healthy debate about non-political shit.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 29, 2024, 20:17
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Prez wrote on Mar 29, 2024, 17:09:
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I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 29, 2024, 17:09
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 29, 2024, 17:09
Mar 29, 2024, 17:09
 Prez
 
I am not going to argue with someone who wants to stop arguing politics on the site. But it makes me wonder why someone would think that insinuating that there is forced pandering/calls for repression is a political matter. Group think is very strong here and everywhere else but despite what people so wrapped up in aligning their own political obsessions into an 'us vs them' mentality on every topic would claim, not everything is political. In general, I think the claims that your argument is completely unfounded are coming from people perhaps being deliberately obtuse. But based on the case in question, I agree with those who are calling you out on your claims. You're reading way too much into things and seeing what isn't there. Hence, my bogeyman comment.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 14:25
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 28, 2024, 14:25
Mar 28, 2024, 14:25
 
fujiJuice wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 11:22:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 09:27:
I admit that 2nd tweet was never mentioned in the news I read about it, the more you know. Doesn't change her outward effect with that statement. A purge is something very different for me as a German. As you might know.
You said opposing viewpoints are unwanted here but that isn't true.
But that is what I take away from it. I will never again post an opinion on here that is in any way politcial.

Edit: in fact, I have removed all posts with politicial leaning back to beginning 2023 and the purge will continue over the weeks. After all, we have to purge those who don't agree with us.
Edit: Now purged every politicial post back to 2021

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 12:09
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 28, 2024, 12:09
Mar 28, 2024, 12:09
 
fujiJuice wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 11:22:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 09:27:
I admit that 2nd tweet was never mentioned in the news I read about it, the more you know. Doesn't change her outward effect with that statement. A purge is something very different for me as a German. As you might know.

You said opposing viewpoints are unwanted here but that isn't true. What you want is a world where you can criticize others and their beliefs but they can't criticize yours. Your beliefs must never be contended with because that isn't fair! How is this person telling everyone that a certain kind of gamer is toxic and are unwanted in their community absolutely any different than a list of games for boycott purposes because those people believe they are toxic and are unwanted in their community?

You want a world that makes only the video games you want, and anything else is unfair and anyone driving the world in that direction is setting us on a path of the destruction of quality media. Other people here, myself included, want a world that has media that imitates life, in a way that art always has. We want new stories that express new ideas and display different ways of life from different viewpoints other than our own so we can experience lives that aren't our own.

So please don't say expressing opposite viewpoints here isn't allowed. You want people to agree with your viewpoint and disregard their own. We don't have to be tolerant of you or anyone's belief that these types of media shouldn't exist or that toxic gamers are not a big problem within the community. That doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have them. No one is going to tie you down and reeducate you. Express yourself freely but expect disagreement.


Well put.

Or, to use his words:
Because to me Bluesnews is escapism from reality, you bring ideologic stuff into it isn't escapism anymore, rather it's becoming a political battlefield for ideological minority opinions to also feel included and eventually we end up with games excluding the majority of what the actual posters want. And for what? For making some Gamergater/Outrage YouTube Viewers/Twitter followers feel good about excluding others from things they think they own?
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 11:22
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 28, 2024, 11:22
Mar 28, 2024, 11:22
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 09:27:
I admit that 2nd tweet was never mentioned in the news I read about it, the more you know. Doesn't change her outward effect with that statement. A purge is something very different for me as a German. As you might know.

You said opposing viewpoints are unwanted here but that isn't true. What you want is a world where you can criticize others and their beliefs but they can't criticize yours. Your beliefs must never be contended with because that isn't fair! How is this person telling everyone that a certain kind of gamer is toxic and are unwanted in their community absolutely any different than a list of games for boycott purposes because those people believe they are toxic and are unwanted in their community?

You want a world that makes only the video games you want, and anything else is unfair and anyone driving the world in that direction is setting us on a path of the destruction of quality media. Other people here, myself included, want a world that has media that imitates life, in a way that art always has. We want new stories that express new ideas and display different ways of life from different viewpoints other than our own so we can experience lives that aren't our own.

So please don't say expressing opposite viewpoints here isn't allowed. You want people to agree with your viewpoint and disregard their own. We don't have to be tolerant of you or anyone's belief that these types of media shouldn't exist or that toxic gamers are not a big problem within the community. That doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have them. No one is going to tie you down and reeducate you. Express yourself freely but expect disagreement.

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 10:29
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How in the world did you miss "these kinds of" in front of "gamers?"
I would also like to not deal with those kinds of gamers. Do you really want to deal with the kind that threaten violence because they're sad about a plot point in a game not aimed at them?

Meanwhile, we're 10 years past Gamergate being outraged in the same way you are, afraid the games made for them will no longer be made. Eraser, do you honestly feel there are no games aimed at pubescent male gamers? That large breasted women in tiny armor have disappeared?
And are you actually angry that some developers consider other audiences?

Does Taylor Swift also bother you? Do you think all music should be metal? How about on TV? Does it bother you that The Great British Baking Show doesn't have bikini models fighting to the death? Or that romantic comedies exist? Why would it bother you that some games are aimed at people not like you but not bother you that other entertainment also caters to a wide variety of consumers?
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 09:27
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Edit: I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 08:57
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 28, 2024, 08:57
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BBC did not call for a purge of all gamers, or say they want all gamers dead.

Again, you seem to be responding, and listening to media, from a point of emotions and outrage, rather than actually paying attention to what is being said.
It's like the Fallout topic, where the showrunners said they're huge fans of the game, but can't cater to the huge fans of the game, and people got angry, saying it wasn't being made for them.

We all know which "gamers" they mean. The kind that spend hours on messageboards threatening violence because someone made the boobs too small. Are you that type of gamer? If so, maybe you can be outraged, or maybe you can consider if that's healthy. If you're not, maybe you realize that the hobby is more fun without having to interact with those people. Like the guy that used to post here saying that calling 12 year old boys the F or N words were the only things that made him not punch someone in real life. We're better off without having to be around those people until they fix themselves. Alternately, it's like a movie theater banning the guy that keeps yelling at the screen and giving out spoilers. Some people just ruin the fun for everyone else and think they're entitled to do so because they're bigger fans.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 08:35
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eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 28, 2024, 06:25:
Desalus wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 21:14:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 17:13:
Desalus wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 14:24:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 14:08:
Considering MS just announced their developer framework and went full insanity (no designing beautiful women, men showing emotions like crying, emotional breakdowns, states of weakness, and ONLY FEMALE cloths only proper to the task a character is performing) I am guessing Microsoft wants to go the way of the DoDo. What a fucking insanity going on lately... sigh.

Where are you seeing that specific information?

From the horses mouth directly
https://archive.is/97j6H in case it is hidden

That's what I thought you were talking about, but I just wanted to double check. Nowhere among any of that information did it say anything remotely close to what you stated. MS has had those policies in place for years now and as far as I can recall it hasn't been detrimental to any of their games.

Yeh but it was new to me Either way, considering BBC "journalists" want gamers "purged" and openly state they want us all "dead" I don't think I am really over-reacting ^^ Maybe I am too late to the party with that heh... as we can see from this topic, different opinions on Blues are not wanted so I won't come back to this topic ever again.

And just in general, it was a learning experience to me that I can call people names and quote snipe here, who cares about rules apparently. Not the moderators. I will apply what I learned next time.
The report button is there for a reason.
Moderators are not expected to read every post looking for rule violations.

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 28, 2024, 06:25
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Edit: I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 22:04
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Re: Biz Buzz Mar 27, 2024, 22:04
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NKD wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 20:46:
Prez wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 20:24:
Conceptually, I see what he's saying. But at some point you might ask yourself if you are seeing "the enemy" everywhere, even when it doesn't apply. Being paranoid can make you think the bogeyman is always just out of sight, just waiting for you to go to sleep

Reminds me of a cheesy horror movie or something. The diversity is coming from inside the house!!!

I laughed way too hard at that for some reason.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 21:14
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eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 17:13:
Desalus wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 14:24:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 14:08:
Considering MS just announced their developer framework and went full insanity (no designing beautiful women, men showing emotions like crying, emotional breakdowns, states of weakness, and ONLY FEMALE cloths only proper to the task a character is performing) I am guessing Microsoft wants to go the way of the DoDo. What a fucking insanity going on lately... sigh.

Where are you seeing that specific information?

From the horses mouth directly
https://archive.is/97j6H in case it is hidden

That's what I thought you were talking about, but I just wanted to double check. Nowhere among any of that information did it say anything remotely close to what you stated. MS has had those policies in place for years now and as far as I can recall it hasn't been detrimental to any of their games.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 20:46
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Prez wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 20:24:
Conceptually, I see what he's saying. But at some point you might ask yourself if you are seeing "the enemy" everywhere, even when it doesn't apply. Being paranoid can make you think the bogeyman is always just out of sight, just waiting for you to go to sleep

Reminds me of a cheesy horror movie or something. The diversity is coming from inside the house!!!
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 20:24
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Mar 27, 2024, 20:24
 Prez
 
Conceptually, I see what he's saying. But at some point you might ask yourself if you are seeing "the enemy" everywhere, even when it doesn't apply. Being paranoid can make you think the bogeyman is always just out of sight, just waiting for you to go to sleep
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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 18:37
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NKD wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 18:03:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 27, 2024, 17:48:
it's becoming a political battlefield for ideological minority opinions to also feel included

How do you type shit like this out without feeling gross? Being a woman isn't an "ideological minority opinion" or "political." Being Black isn't that either. Nor is being LGBT. Those are just types of people in this world, many of whom enjoy games and who want the same "escapism" you want. But you're up in here telling us that not dressing female characters up in exaggerated bikini armor or having too many non-white characters will ruin your escapism.

Like I just can't imagine having that opinion, self-reflecting, and deciding "Yeah that sounds good and right."
The world has moved beyond the dinosaurs.
You're fighting a lost cause, but thanks for trying.

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Re: Biz Buzz
Mar 27, 2024, 18:19
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Edit: I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

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Mar 27, 2024, 18:05
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Edit: I will no longer engage in any political discussion on this site

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