HELLDIVERS 2 Sells ~1M

This post from Johan Pilestedt, creative director at Arrowhead Studios, gives a sales estimate for HELLDIVERS 2, the PC and PlayStation first-person shooter homage to Starship Troopers. Despite some issues that are still being worked through, word is the game has sold "around" a million units since its launch last Thursday (thanks Reddit). In a previous post, Johan addresses the suggestion that the game is pay to win:
I'm partial but we really applied ourselves to not make it p2w even though items are functionally different. The only item that's p2w is the revolver - which will win you any "cool gun" competition. Only (minor) problem is that it's not that good. 🤷
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Re: Helldivers 2 Sells ~1M
Feb 11, 2024, 23:23
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 11, 2024, 23:13:
Jim wrote on Feb 11, 2024, 21:27:
so.... aside from rootkits being "scary" - how has one ever affected people? yeah, no doubt "computer slowdown" but they say that about everything so the phrase is meaningless.

Oh my sweet summer child.

Rootkits, by their very definition, are malware. There have been many, many rootkits over the years that have affected systems and people and the sum total damages from them trends well in to the billions of dollars. They are one of the most, if not THE most, invidious types of malware around. I'm going to drop a layman level explanation of rootkits for you:

A rootkit does exactly what it says on the tin. It grants the process total access to the root of the system (root on Linux or ring 0 on Windows). Because it is now an authoritative system process, it can do whatever it wants without restriction to that system...often without the average user ever knowing it is even there. Credential theft? Easy. Use that system as a node in a DDoS network? Easy. Cryptomining? Easy. Plus many other nefarious uses.

Undoubtedly someone is going to say "But it's from Sony/whatever company they are doing business with!" The problem though is all it takes is for one dedicated person to find an exploit for it and then craft a hijack for it. Now that person has access, and can sell that access, to whatever system has that particular rootkit version installed. They don't have to do any real additional work because the targets already completed 70% of the work for them.

There are people whom still compute like it's the early 2000s and they are idiots in my opinion. We face a plethora of APTs on a level never before seen in human history. We face a corporate landscape that is exploitive to the point that it would make robber barons of the 19th century green with envy while also simultaneously putting as little money as possible, and almost zero foresight in to, protecting the data and access they have to consumers. There's a reason the concept of zero trust is such a massive deal now. Not only can you not trust third parties, you really shouldn't even be trusting the devices on your own network.

There are people who are going to call me paranoid and that's OK. I have been paid well for many years to be as paranoid as possible without having a psychotic break with reality. But I can also say that in 24 years, I have never had a single breach or infection on any system for which I have direct authority and responsibility. I didn't get that track record by being complacent and saying "Oh this rootkit is fine because it is from Name Brand Company."

Yes, you're very well educated and also exceedingly condescending, which frankly is a terrible trait for people to have. I also haven't had any breaches or infections in over 20 years, but then I'm only responsible for my own system and nothing on there is anything anyone will care about. You're paid to be paranoid about the hardware you work with, I am not. I do not care if this puts my home computer at marginally higher risk of anything, and intimating that people are idiots for that is pretty shitty behavior. But at least you carefully worded it in a vague and ambiguous way so as not to directly violate the rules, right?
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Re: Helldivers 2 Sells ~1M
Feb 11, 2024, 23:13
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Re: Helldivers 2 Sells ~1M Feb 11, 2024, 23:13
Feb 11, 2024, 23:13
 
Jim wrote on Feb 11, 2024, 21:27:
so.... aside from rootkits being "scary" - how has one ever affected people? yeah, no doubt "computer slowdown" but they say that about everything so the phrase is meaningless.

Oh my sweet summer child.

Rootkits, by their very definition, are malware. There have been many, many rootkits over the years that have affected systems and people and the sum total damages from them trends well in to the billions of dollars. They are one of the most, if not THE most, invidious types of malware around. I'm going to drop a layman level explanation of rootkits for you:

A rootkit does exactly what it says on the tin. It grants the process total access to the root of the system (root on Linux or ring 0 on Windows). Because it is now an authoritative system process, it can do whatever it wants without restriction to that system...often without the average user ever knowing it is even there. Credential theft? Easy. Use that system as a node in a DDoS network? Easy. Cryptomining? Easy. Plus many other nefarious uses.

Undoubtedly someone is going to say "But it's from Sony/whatever company they are doing business with!" The problem though is all it takes is for one dedicated person to find an exploit for it and then craft a hijack for it. Now that person has access, and can sell that access, to whatever system has that particular rootkit version installed. They don't have to do any real additional work because the targets already completed 70% of the work for them.

There are people whom still compute like it's the early 2000s and they are idiots in my opinion. We face a plethora of APTs on a level never before seen in human history. We face a corporate landscape that is exploitive to the point that it would make robber barons of the 19th century green with envy while also simultaneously putting as little money as possible, and almost zero foresight in to, protecting the data and access they have to consumers. There's a reason the concept of zero trust is such a massive deal now. Not only can you not trust third parties, you really shouldn't even be trusting the devices on your own network.

There are people who are going to call me paranoid and that's OK. I have been paid well for many years to be as paranoid as possible without having a psychotic break with reality. But I can also say that in 24 years, I have never had a single breach or infection on any system for which I have direct authority and responsibility. I didn't get that track record by being complacent and saying "Oh this rootkit is fine because it is from Name Brand Company."
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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Re: Helldivers 2 Sells ~1M
Feb 11, 2024, 21:27
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so.... aside from rootkits being "scary" - how has one ever affected people? yeah, no doubt "computer slowdown" but they say that about everything so the phrase is meaningless.

I'll be picking this up when my queue is a little less full
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Feb 11, 2024, 21:03
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 11, 2024, 20:49:
[quote="Teddy"Feb 11, 2024, 20:36"20096

And it's an enormously fun game if that doesn't bother you.

A person is an idiot if it doesn't. So ~1 million idiots and counting.

Or some people are just beyond letting that bother them.

But sure, just bush them all as idiots if that's how you view the world.
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[quote="Teddy"Feb 11, 2024, 20:36"20096

And it's an enormously fun game if that doesn't bother you.

A person is an idiot if it doesn't. So ~1 million idiots and counting.
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Yakubs wrote on Feb 11, 2024, 15:22:
Has a rootkit anti cheat to protect their cash shop...

And it's an enormously fun game if that doesn't bother you. Like playing a real-time Starship troopers in co-op.
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Has a rootkit anti cheat to protect their cash shop...
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