Starfield 2024 Update and Expansion Plans

The End of the Year Update for Starfield is here, saying that the space RPG's 13 million players since September make it the biggest launch in company history. This comes with an infographic with some big numbers, such as the almost two billion planets explored, despite them not all being Disney World. But the update looks forward as well as back, outlining support plans. Word is players should expect updates every six weeks or so beginning in February, that mod support is coming early next year, and Shattered Space, the game's first major expansion, will come next year as well:
First, we’re targeting updates roughly every six weeks starting in February. These updates will include everything from quality-of-life improvements to content and feature updates. Join our Steam Beta branch to be the first to try these updates as they begin rolling out.

We've been reading all your feedback and are excited to start launching these new features. We'll be adding new ways to travel and you’ll now be able to access city maps while exploring the major cities. For those of you who love ship building, we'll also be expanding on ship customization with ship decorations, new ship building options, and more.

We're also excited to be adding all new Gameplay options. With these new settings you'll be able to alter your gameplay to allow for an easier or more challenging experience that will expand beyond our normal "Difficulty" setting. These will allow you to easily customize carry capacity, cargo access distance, ship damage, vendor credits, how you suffer afflictions, new survival mechanics, and more.

Next, official mod support will be coming to Starfield with the launch of Creations. Beginning early next year, Starfield will be getting its own exporter and you’ll have access to a new Creation Kit. Modding has always been an enormous part of our games, with incredible community-made content constantly bringing fresh new experiences. With the scale and systems in Starfield, we can’t wait to see what you come up with!

And lastly, the team is hard at work on the development of Shattered Space, our first major expansion coming next year. You’ll have new story content, new locations, new gear, and much more. We can’t wait to share more with you next year.
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MattyB wrote on Dec 21, 2023, 17:42:
I'm on a car forum filled with mainly 30+ year old parents and in a gaming sub-forum, more of them voted for Starfield as their GOTY than BG3. It's the same at work, I know a few casual gamers (again, 30+ parents) who really enjoy Starfield, they're certainly not ones to put reviews on websites.

I think outside of the more 'proper' gamers, Starfield is ticking a lot of boxes for the more casual players.
Good point !
The defining word being casual (a.k.a boring for more experienced or exigent gamers).
I suppose that a more visceral experience -CP 2077, BG3, etc- would be a little overwhelming or complicated for them.

But, SF is clearly lacking in many ways otherwise.
There is something of contradiction in a triple A game being casual.
Has anyone heard of a single award given by serious referents ?
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Razumen wrote on Dec 22, 2023, 01:03:
eRe4s3r wrote on Dec 21, 2023, 03:59:
jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 18:54:
40 hours per player is pretty damn high for so many people claiming to hate it...

No.. it really isn't... one of the few games you can't really judge from the opening,

I realize you're talking about more than just the start of the game, but the opening of SF itself is one of the worst in the series and completely unrepresentative of the game's premise. You literally start the first 30+ minutes in a cave. I could think of countless better ways to start of in a game whose whole premise is about exploring space and new planets.

Yeah but from that you could assume it has cutscenes, characters and passable scenes and events at least.
Which it, in fact, does not. It's actually insane how misrepresenting the opening few hours of this game are to the whole experience.
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eRe4s3r wrote on Dec 21, 2023, 03:59:
jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 18:54:
40 hours per player is pretty damn high for so many people claiming to hate it...

No.. it really isn't... one of the few games you can't really judge from the opening,

I realize you're talking about more than just the start of the game, but the opening of SF itself is one of the worst in the series and completely unrepresentative of the game's premise. You literally start the first 30+ minutes in a cave. I could think of countless better ways to start of in a game whose whole premise is about exploring space and new planets.
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Dec 21, 2023, 17:42
 
I'm on a car forum filled with mainly 30+ year old parents and in a gaming sub-forum, more of them voted for Starfield as their GOTY than BG3. It's the same at work, I know a few casual gamers (again, 30+ parents) who really enjoy Starfield, they're certainly not ones to put reviews on websites.

I think outside of the more 'proper' gamers, Starfield is ticking a lot of boxes for the more casual players.
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Dec 21, 2023, 16:03
 
Today, Steam last 30 days down again to 49%.

BGS: "But you're playing it wrong !", "Update this february !", "Paid for mods ! (what ? StarUI ?)", bad of you.

Many fans: "Can't be, I liked it !", glad for you, you're the winners here.
Hope it gets fixed like FO 76 and more can join you.
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Dec 21, 2023, 11:19
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Dec 21, 2023, 11:19
 
Dude exactly, well put. I played quite a bit of Starfield and disliked it. I didn't start out that way, it was the opposite but over time the constant loading grated, the lack of depth started to become more apparent and that's why I put it down. Play time != enjoyment. Sometimes your opinion actually changes after reflection and time spent. Games can start out fun and become worse, in fact its really common. Fun itself is not a binary state and is totally subjective.

Starfield is one of the worst Bethesda games in my opinion and I spent a fair amount of time in it /shrug
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Verno wrote on Dec 21, 2023, 10:36:
Jim wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 21:48:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 20:50:
Seen loads of reviews with 150+ hours, they paid for it, making a valiant effort to get the best, and come out giving it a no passing grade: last 30 days 50% score, too many to be a fluke.
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"

I'd have to say its probably rare for people to have that many hours in a game that sucks.

It's almost like taste is subjective and people value their time differently, who would've imagined?!

Reviews like that on Steam make me respect a player more. When I see the logged 800+ hours and are willing to give it a negative review. I'm thinking, damn, they played every ounce the game has to offer and still cannot give it a recommendation. They're truly doing their service to prevent others from wasting their own 800 hours in what is going to turn out to be a real crappy game, lol.

Honestly, I don't care too much about reviews anymore. If something looks intriguing enough, I'll give it a shot. Though if I am skeptical about any aspects, I will dive into a review to see if that skepticism I have is covered and has an answer. Otherwise, I'm quite open to just do blind buys. I've had some misses, but good ones are extra awesome when I go in blind.

Some recent that I went in completely blind meaning not watching gameplay on them or reviews beyond knowing they have high favorable ratings, Dredge, Dave the Diver, Days Gone (in the past), the SpiderMan games, I mean, I can really go on. The experience is elevated moreso having zero clue what to expect, though the gamble is always there because if it sucks, you're at a loss.
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Jim wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 21:48:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 20:50:
Seen loads of reviews with 150+ hours, they paid for it, making a valiant effort to get the best, and come out giving it a no passing grade: last 30 days 50% score, too many to be a fluke.
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"

I'd have to say its probably rare for people to have that many hours in a game that sucks.

It's almost like taste is subjective and people value their time differently, who would've imagined?!
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Jim wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 21:48:
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"

I'd have to say its probably rare for people to have that many hours in a game that sucks.
Maybe....but there are plenty of reasonable explanations if you spend a couple of minutes thinking about it.
- I see people on my Steam friends list with many hours on a game that they've actually played less than 10.....because they leave the game up and running when they go to dinner....or even sleep. (This is a pet peeve of mine just because I'm paranoid about operating hours on my GPU) Diablo IV does this with their 'timed events' where you can walk away for 20 mins waiting for an event to pop.
- Beyond that, there was the constant refrain on Starfield that "it gets better after XX hours!" I can assure you that it does not.
- The Grind. So many games require a shitty grind mechanic to 'get to the good stuff' that can tack hours of festering hate onto playtime.
- Addiction. There is a significant percentage of gamer that have behavioral addictions.....so they play something because they are compelled to....not because they actually enjoy it.
- Vendor kickbacks. (Ties into mods) Look at the hardware support game that Beth played with Starfield. You can't take advantage of a feature of your rig because they took a kickback to gimp it but a modder released a fix within 24 hours?
- Mods/hacks. This is a major one for me. Starfield was a dogshit game without a few minor mods that have been around since Skyrim. So the game was trash....but elevated to somewhat enjoyable by simple quality of life mods the devs have been too lazy to build into the engine over ten years.
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Dec 21, 2023, 09:41
 
Good news people! No one said you had to buy it at *squints* $70.

I expect I will acquire this game once it's out of Early Access. I bought Skyrim a few times and was happy to do so.

But I do thank all the playtesters and modders out there for their efforts.
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jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 18:54:
40 hours per player is pretty damn high for so many people claiming to hate it...

No.. it really isn't... one of the few games you can't really judge from the opening, it gets WAY worse the more you play. Especially once you realize all the gameplay systems aren't connected at all, once you realize outposts are a sham, once you realize ship design is hugely flawed. These things don't come to you instantly. Sure the atrocious writing comes to you instantly, but to fully understand how bad it is you have to see all the faction missions (of which there are a lot less than you'd think). And to fully realize the flaws of Starfield you need to have an overview of the quests, where the vast majority could be solved by this world having a smart phone.

For one playthrough Starfield is perfectly fine, but that isn't what we buy Bethesda games for now is it.
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Doesn't matter. Bethesda and their 25 year old game engine are irrelevant.
Let's see how many people are willing to pay for more garbage like this when TES6 is released. They'll get exactly what they deserve.

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Hmm, why did they wait so long.

First, we’re targeting updates roughly every six weeks starting in February.

I know several bugs that needed ironing out before it should have even launched. IE: VASCO floating outside a custom built ship, or stuck between floors. How that game shipped without VASCO's magic compartment he gets in the default starter ship is beyond me. And that is still not even patched last time I read the patch notes.

I see they are going to attempt to EverGreen this game. I wish them luck, and I hope they do actually make the game something special. Until then I will not hold my breath.
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Jim wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 21:48:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 20:50:
Seen loads of reviews with 150+ hours, they paid for it, making a valiant effort to get the best, and come out giving it a no passing grade: last 30 days 50% score, too many to be a fluke.
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"

I'd have to say its probably rare for people to have that many hours in a game that sucks.
It's not rare to have that many hours in a game that you decide you ultimately don't want to recommend to other. Lots of games are filled with grind that preys on people's compulsions, basically skinner boxes, and it takes awhile to realize how much of your time the game has tricked you into wasting, or there's just so much to do, but most of it isn't worth it.

Same thing happened with me in No Man's Sky. I wasted a lot of time building in that game, but that was just because I like building in general. In the game, there was no real reason for building anyways other than to grind for credits, which was basically just used to grind for other things like ships. I realized I wasn't actually having fun and was just constantly chasing a carrot that was never as good as it was promised to be.
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Well Jim,

Sometimes those paying 70,00 USD or whatever, don't have more money for alternatives, and may play for a time till they can afford another game.
Others are obsessive in finishing a started game.

Cumulative repetitive or uninteresting questing or nothing to keep your interest after (both cited), a poor ending or NG+ may sour those on the fence, etc.

Always some difficulty in imagining different attitudes and circumstances, not ours.
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I enjoyed it for the most part, but I also haven't liked any other Bethesda games in the past. There's a lot they can easily expand upon and it'll be interesting to see what their focus is.

That being said I can easily see where someone with an expectation of sinking time into it like they would an MMO would be really disappointed. They have a lot of potentially cool systems that either aren't fleshed out or are pointless.

edit: Oh and the game engine holy shit does it need to go. I don't know if they need to modify an off the shelf or custom design their own but there is clearly too much baggage for modern game design.
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Dec 20, 2023, 22:07
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Jim wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 21:48:
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"
Modern game reviews in a nutshell, just look at all the negative Diablo 4 reviews with 100 hours played.

Starfield hasn't even remotely interested me, but it's still really nice they are adding official mod support. I imagine in 3-5 years time this will really be something to see with the mods.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 20:50:
Seen loads of reviews with 150+ hours, they paid for it, making a valiant effort to get the best, and come out giving it a no passing grade: last 30 days 50% score, too many to be a fluke.
"I liked it enough to play it for 150+ hours, then I suddenly decided it sucked!!!"

I'd have to say its probably rare for people to have that many hours in a game that sucks.

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More PR gaslighting.
If you are not bored and satisfied with the available stuff, sure, you have much to do, and even if not, you may try to find any good.

Seen loads of reviews with 150+ hours, they paid for it, making a valiant effort to get the best, and come out giving it a no passing grade: last 30 days 50% score, too many to be a fluke.

And modders can only do so much if the necessary basic interest and mechanics just aren't there.
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jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2023, 18:54:
40 hours per player is pretty damn high for so many people claiming to hate it...
Criticism doesn't mean hate. The game has enjoyable aspects, yet they inevitably come apart the further you play due to the game being rushed and incompletely realized.

That said, I expect to be thoroughly disappointed by the DLC. They're not going to fix the game's core issues, just bolt more crap on top of it.
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