Starfield Boasts 12M Players

An on-stage interview with Phil Spencer at Brazilian festival CCXP23 has more on the launch of Skyrim (thanks Reddit). Though the reception for the outer space RPG is mixed, the Xbox boss says that between retail sales and game pass participants, the game has surpassed 12 million players:
Starfield has been awesome. One of the special things about my job is I get to play games very early in the development. In fact, I was playing Starfield about this time last year and the game came out at the beginning of September of this year. And I could tell when I was playing and the fact that I couldn't stop playing that this was probably going to be a pretty special game. So, you never know when something is going to be a hit, but it was nice to see how successful it's been. In fact, Starfield has now had over 12 million players since the launch of Starfield and it still sits in our top 10 most played games from our studios. So thank you everybody for all the support on Starfield and making it a tremendous hit.
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Dec 4, 2023, 22:10
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Dec 4, 2023, 22:10
 
Yeah, I played the game for 130 hours (no mods, no cheats), did all the faction and side quests, collected all 50/50 achievements but I never felt an urge to start a NewGame+. I did exactly what I wanted to do and made exactly the choices I wanted to make on my first playthrough. Why would I want to start over?
At least for me, there was zero incentive to do it all over again. The game has a decent amount of choices in some of the quest lines like when you're infiltrating the Crimson Pirates but none of those choices were significant enough to warrant a second playthrough.
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Dec 4, 2023, 19:28
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Dec 4, 2023, 19:28
 
The Half Elf wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 05:32:
But lets be blunt. once you figure out that you have to play the same game 10 time to really get into the "fun" of the game, I had no desire to finish the game.

But you...don't. NewGame+ is a huge trap. 99.99% of the game can be experienced in the first universe. You get absolutely nothing from NG+ except some altered stats and a useless ship and suit you'll never use because player built ones and loot is better. The only real reason to do NG+ is to see the very slight differences in each universe, and that's better done at the end just for the lolz, or better yet, save your time and watch them on YT.
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Dec 4, 2023, 18:04
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Dec 4, 2023, 18:04
 Prez
 
Thanks for the help. I never really got into it because as brilliant as the world was, I never got past how your weapons couldn't last beyond a fight or two without worrying about them. It's weird complaining about 'realism' in a fantasy world but that was a bridge too far for me. A lot of people didn't mind the mechanic, and some people even welcomed how it made them try more weapons, but I never stopped hating it. I played about 20 hours give or take on my nephew's Switch (at the time I was trying to decide if I should buy a Switch or not) and I remember thinking that if this was a PC game that would be the first thing I modded out.

Anyway Nintendo games are often one-of-a-kind experiences and I always was mad at myself for not being able to look past that. But DAMN did I despise the way they did that. I like getting attached to my gear and changing it as I level up. I don't really like being forced to.

Anyway I ended up not buying a Switch; I was just wondering if it might be worth trying the sequel should I get the chance again.
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Dec 4, 2023, 17:49
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Dec 4, 2023, 17:49
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Prez wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 14:35:
sauron wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 11:59:

...I will get to Starfield eventually. But when competing against AAA titles such as BG3 and Zelda TOTK you really have to get everything right, and reviews of Starfield suggest that while it's really good, it is not truly great, or at least not yet.

Since you mentioned the newest Zelda I have to ask: Did they tone the weapon fragility mechanic down for the sequel? I mean WAY down? I don't think I've ever hated another single RPG mechanic as much.

The nature of the fusing mechanic means you always have (good) weapons to use. Worst case scenario you can put a rock on the end of a stick and you'll have a good enough weapon to get by... but by the time I finished the game I had a billion fusing materials (of very high quality) that I'd just never used.
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Dec 4, 2023, 16:13
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Dec 4, 2023, 16:13
 
Prez wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 14:35:
sauron wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 11:59:
...I will get to Starfield eventually. But when competing against AAA titles such as BG3 and Zelda TOTK you really have to get everything right, and reviews of Starfield suggest that while it's really good, it is not truly great, or at least not yet.
Since you mentioned the newest Zelda I have to ask: Did they tone the weapon fragility mechanic down for the sequel? I mean WAY down? I don't think I've ever hated another single RPG mechanic as much.
Prez:
If no cheat engining your own tables, try mods for weapons durability a google away.
Really interested and didn't find what you want ? Post, help you if I can.

Sauron:
By the way BG3 got a terrific inventory mod just updated by Caites:
"Better Inventory UI (with Mark Books as Read support)"
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/4597
And change chars inventory always from main character with TAB, no need to go to each character's own one.
Seems nobody made a pooled party inventory yet.
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Dec 4, 2023, 14:35
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Dec 4, 2023, 14:35
 Prez
 
sauron wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 11:59:

...I will get to Starfield eventually. But when competing against AAA titles such as BG3 and Zelda TOTK you really have to get everything right, and reviews of Starfield suggest that while it's really good, it is not truly great, or at least not yet.

Since you mentioned the newest Zelda I have to ask: Did they tone the weapon fragility mechanic down for the sequel? I mean WAY down? I don't think I've ever hated another single RPG mechanic as much.
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Dec 4, 2023, 13:46
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Razumen wrote on Dec 3, 2023, 21:15:
Jim wrote on Dec 3, 2023, 17:54:
Eh, the game is fine. it is nothing spectacular, but its not terribly bad. If it was made by anyone other than bethesda people would have had higher opinions of it. I enjoyed my time with the game, it provided good value for the cost vs time spent. Yeah, you can't do 1000 hours in it, but it does provide a basis for people to mod.

It has it's moments, but it is also terribly flawed in many respects. It's really hard to call Bethesda's games AAA anymore when their quality is more like AA or worse. Hell, even an indie game, StarshipEvo, with a ONE man development team, did space flight better than they did.

I'd rate it B. Their games have their own niche. Lots of money and manpower behind it, but also lots of bugs. A game which uses an old engine that was cool a decade ago to create a mess which modders can fix or otherwise work with.
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Dec 4, 2023, 13:27
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Dec 4, 2023, 13:27
 
Poot Windbreaker wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 10:46:
Came for the silly SonyBro and Gaben lover comments and was not disappointed! Thank you for the amusement!
Now now, use the litter box dear
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Dec 4, 2023, 13:01
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Dec 4, 2023, 13:01
 
Poot Windbreaker wrote on Dec 4, 2023, 10:46:
Came for the silly SonyBro and Gaben lover comments and was not disappointed! Thank you for the amusement!

naww bruh, for sure this game is a flop, and only sold 330,723 copies, and 670k downloads on Game pass, no doubt, M$ is counting how many charters players created to come up with 12,000,000 players. I know this for sure after taking a survey of 6 PS5 owners on the reddit.
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Dec 4, 2023, 11:59
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Dec 4, 2023, 11:59
 
- Baldur's Gate 3
181,458 Players In-Game (873,941 All-Time Peak)
Player Score 96 global, last 30 days 98%

This. I thought about getting Starfield, but BG3 is so good I cannot look past it for now (except maybe to Larian's previous release Divinity Original Sin 2 on Switch when my Steam Deck runs our of juice).

I will get to Starfield eventually. But when competing against AAA titles such as BG3 and Zelda TOTK you really have to get everything right, and reviews of Starfield suggest that while it's really good, it is not truly great, or at least not yet.
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Dec 4, 2023, 11:57
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It's a decent game, but it just feels like it was released before it was adequately fleshed out. It needs more content in critical areas like base building and diversity of points of interest to explore on planets.
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Dec 4, 2023, 11:13
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Dec 4, 2023, 11:13
 
I thought Starfield was a pretty average game. They failed to execute on their ambitions and left a lot of half finished systems strewn about in the game. The standouts were the faction questlines and just about everything else was ho-hum. Poor enemy and environmental variety. Half baked exploration and ship combat. An endless barrage of micro loading. Less companion quests than prior games. The visuals in the game range from Quake 3 era to jaw dropping, the contrast is jarring.

It's not a bad game but it barely qualifies as a good one. I saw it through to the end to get my moneys worth but it's not something I can ever see myself revisiting, even with mods. There are too many fundamental design limitations and annoyances. The engine is really holding them back at this point and they need to make a clean break, even if it breaks 20 years of compatibility.
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Dec 4, 2023, 10:46
 
Came for the silly SonyBro and Gaben lover comments and was not disappointed! Thank you for the amusement!
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Dec 4, 2023, 10:01
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Dec 4, 2023, 10:01
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I had more than 190 hrs mostly fun with Starfield. I will come back and play a game+ run in a year or two with mods and add-ons.
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Dec 4, 2023, 09:09
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Dec 4, 2023, 09:09
 
It only took Bethesda two months to get AMD's FSR2 working...;) Yes, it works, finally, at 4k. The HDR implementation is weird, still working that one out. When I can be bothered, that is. I lost interest on the Kreet moon! The ten-year development claim is ludicrous, and the tale is told by the game engine--which still responds to Fallout 4 structured mods! Bethesda's been trumpeting large numbers repetitively since launch, always a bad sign when the company does it rather than the players.
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Dec 4, 2023, 08:25
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Dec 4, 2023, 08:25
 
Bethesda should transition from a game developer, to an rpg engine platform & setting developer. Let some real writers and artists have a go at the actual stories.
I should be coding.
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Dec 4, 2023, 06:54
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Dec 4, 2023, 06:54
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 3, 2023, 14:09:
- Starfield: 26,163 Players In-Game
(down 92% from All-Time Peak 330,723)
Player Score 67 %

- Baldur's Gate 3
181,458 Players In-Game (873,941 All-Time Peak)
Player Score 96 global, last 30 days 98%

Thanks for bringing in perspective!
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Dec 4, 2023, 05:32
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Dec 4, 2023, 05:32
 
So thing is.. his number may be right.... but at the same time, it could be people who have Gamepass and have Starfield installed and played within the last 30 days.

But lets be blunt. once you figure out that you have to play the same game 10 time to really get into the "fun" of the game, I had no desire to finish the game. There is a video comparing Cyberpunk 2077 to Starfield of a conversation where ya transition to a sitting animation during a major conversation. In Cyberpunk 2077 it's the bot scene with the Malestrom, vs what ever the fuck conversation in Starfield. Hands down it goes to Cyberpunk 2077. Bethesda may have some great character conversations, and stories, but (as far as I got with the game) really lacks from any sort of set piece moments that have "Oh!" or "Ah!" moments. If they are in Starfield, I never got to to them because I was bored to death.

Starfield is a great blueprint to put DLC on top of it, or allow the modding community to make it into something extra special that's been going on since Oblivion. For Bethesda it really feel like it suffered from the same issues that most of the game developed during covid suffered from.
The saving grace to Starfield is the Xbox Pass, as many others, (including myself) weren't putting down 70+ bucks for the game.

But if anything this is a "Elon Musk" ego boost that cherry picks stats to help sell it to investors.
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Dec 4, 2023, 02:41
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Dec 4, 2023, 02:41
 
"We gave our game away, and a bunch of people played it" is an interesting business flex.

I dread the effect MS are going to have on CoD Zombies and traditional 6v6 multiplayer.
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Dec 3, 2023, 22:51
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Dec 3, 2023, 22:51
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I don't really care, but I have seen some contention that Starfield couldn't have been a financial success because of game pass and returns. Given the absolute most conservative numbers, that every single copy of Starfield was played on game pass, except for the verifiable sales on Steam, at $70 for Steam purchases, and $10 bucks for 1 month of game pass, Starfield generated, by the absolute most conservative estimate possible that I could come up with, around $150 million. It is extremely unlikely that those are accurate numbers, as they are almost certainly significantly higher. Is that a financial failure? I don't think it is, but I could be wrong.
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