The both of you always write as if you are pissed at the world and speak very condescendingly all of the time. I was hoping for an epic flame war. Alas, the popcorn I prepared was for naught. I still ate it though.

yonder wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 21:45:

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 16:05:

Quboid wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 15:38:

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 12:07:
The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

Paradox did not buy Colossal Order. CO is independently owned.

I see the sense in not going with the Steam Workshop. Why tie one of your product's most notable features to one platform?

If CO were independent, the mod platform used would be the independent mods.io
Either way what does it matter? Not a bit, I won't make assets for a corpo.

Trust me, no one cares that you won't make assets for a corpo. And seriously, what's up w/ the fetish of stating facts without even considering the concept of researching reality before stating obviously disprovable things? I've never understood that type of person.

You hate all corporations no matter what *and* you choose to not look up facts before stating them publicly.

... you do you.

It's because unlike you I know that Paradox owns the *full* license an IP rights of Cities Skylines. To me that is being bought out as a studio.
Semantics? Maybe. The question is what do you add to this discussion aside from toxicity?

A game like City Skylines being capped at 30fps isn't a problem to me. IF the tradeoff is better performance at higher graphic fidelities. The problem is that they had awful performance at launch, and they didn't have to. I could be wrong, but the sales you might generate by releasing in q4 won't make up for the bad word of mouth and the hit your rep takes overall by rushing to release a game that is this unoptimized. Chris Roberts' epic incompetence aside, I miss "when it's done" as a release date. In this day and age, I'd settle for "when it's passable".

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 16:05:

Quboid wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 15:38:

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 12:07:
The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

Paradox did not buy Colossal Order. CO is independently owned.

I see the sense in not going with the Steam Workshop. Why tie one of your product's most notable features to one platform?

If CO were independent, the mod platform used would be the independent mods.io
Either way what does it matter? Not a bit, I won't make assets for a corpo.

Trust me, no one cares that you won't make assets for a corpo. And seriously, what's up w/ the fetish of stating facts without even considering the concept of researching reality before stating obviously disprovable things? I've never understood that type of person.

You hate all corporations no matter what *and* you choose to not look up facts before stating them publicly.

... you do you.

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 16:05:

Quboid wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 15:38:

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 12:07:
The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

Paradox did not buy Colossal Order. CO is independently owned.

I see the sense in not going with the Steam Workshop. Why tie one of your product's most notable features to one platform?

If CO were independent, the mod platform used would be the independent mods.io
Either way what does it matter? Not a bit, I won't make assets for a corpo.

It's on Paradox's service because they have a contract with Paradox, but they're not owned by them.

I'm not fussed about the modding platform switch. The Steam workshop TOS effectively involves giving whatever you make to Valve; the Paradox TOS isn't any worse.

Quboid wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 15:38:

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 12:07:
The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

Paradox did not buy Colossal Order. CO is independently owned.

I see the sense in not going with the Steam Workshop. Why tie one of your product's most notable features to one platform?

If CO were independent, the mod platform used would be the independent mods.io
Either way what does it matter? Not a bit, I won't make assets for a corpo.

eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 19, 2023, 12:07:
The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

Paradox did not buy Colossal Order. CO is independently owned.

I see the sense in not going with the Steam Workshop. Why tie one of your product's most notable features to one platform?

The moment Paradox bought Colossal Order was the moment it was over. Creative vision made CS1, greed made many DLCs, and corpo greed made CS2. Colossal Order now has to fix what Paradox ruined.

And by the way, with Paradox not going for Steam Workshop the game is 100% dead to me anyway, I will not upload anything to Paradox sites.

This comment was edited on Nov 19, 2023, 12:26.