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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 12, 2023, 06:36
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 12, 2023, 06:36
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What's funny is that someone who opposes this:

Europe gives Zuckerberg 24 hours to respond about Israel-Hamas misinfo

Will support this (or vice-versa):

Utah sues TikTok over child safety issues and its links to China

Not realizing they are the same issue.
If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Slava Ukraini!
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 20:03
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Oct 11, 2023, 20:03
 
Timmeh wrote on Oct 11, 2023, 15:05:
FUCK NO.

policed speech is no speech at all.

It is better for speech to be public and let the people or even groups like the ADL or others respond in public.

no government anywhere can be trusted to determine what the truth is or is not.

Speech has always been policed. Enemy agents used to drop pamphlets from planes and balloons into countries to convince citizens to turn against their government or flip sides. We shot those planes and balloons down and burned the pamphlets. If spies sneak into the country and attempt to form terrorist cells, we attempt to capture them and shut them up. Propaganda is still a very real and very potent danger to all countries - it's just the transmission methods have changed. Right wing domestic terrorism is one of the fastest-growing concerns of our law enforcement, and it's being fueled by misinformation and propaganda, turning Americans against their own government and fellow citizens. Social media is a primary transmission vector.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 18:04
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Oct 11, 2023, 18:04
 
European Union feels threatened, because it claimed an exclusive right to produce misinformation. Western double standards are abhorrent.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 17:40
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 11, 2023, 17:40
Oct 11, 2023, 17:40
 
Prez wrote on Oct 11, 2023, 17:25:
What do I have to do to live in your reality? Because in mine, false shit being reported on social media is ruining the world. One "stolen election" at a time.
All you have to do is turn off your brain and listen and believe the Fox echo chamber -- that is sufficient.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 17:25
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Oct 11, 2023, 17:25
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Timmeh wrote on Oct 11, 2023, 15:05:
FUCK NO.

policed speech is no speech at all.

It is better for speech to be public and let the people or even groups like the ADL or others respond in public.

no government anywhere can be trusted to determine what the truth is or is not.

What do I have to do to live in your reality? Because in mine, false shit being reported on social media is ruining the world. One "stolen election" at a time.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 15:52
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 11, 2023, 15:52
Oct 11, 2023, 15:52
 
Non policed internet is a freepass for:

- The carefully planned abuses of the greedy (algorithms for clickbait -Google, Facebook-, selling anger and outrage -a la Fox-, sensasionalist garbage, etc)

- The evil (Russia, China, USA's extremisms, Muskims, etc)

- The idiots ...
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 15:33
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 11, 2023, 15:33
Oct 11, 2023, 15:33
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Timmeh wrote on Oct 11, 2023, 15:05:
FUCK NO.

policed speech is no speech at all.

It is better for speech to be public and let the people or even groups like the ADL or others respond in public.

no government anywhere can be trusted to determine what the truth is or is not.

Tell me you're American without telling me you're American.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 15:31
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 11, 2023, 15:31
Oct 11, 2023, 15:31
 
European regulator Thierry Breton also told twitter to clean up its act, lest musk be feeling left out and wanting to fight Zuckerberg again.

/snip from https://robertreich.substack.com/p/office-hours-is-elon-musk-hobbling?
And you can’t leave out Elon because he bought Twitter for $44 billion, fired most of its staff (including everyone who had tried to keep its content free from dangerous lies), and invited poisonous liars back on the platform, saying he was a “free speech absolutist.”

And now — in the midst of a war between Gaza militants and Israel, when people around the world are desperate to know what’s happening — Musk has personally recommended that users follow accounts notorious for promoting lies.

“For following the war in real-time, @WarMonitors & @sentdefender are good,” Musk posted Sunday.

Good?

“War Monitor” has posted that “the overwhelming majority of people in the media and banks are zionists,” thanked Kanye West “for being the only man with influence to stand up and talk about the injustices going on,” and, according to The Washington Post, posted that a correspondent should “go worship a jew lil bro.”

A researcher at the Atlantic Council Digital Forensics Lab has concluded that “@sentdefender” is “absolutely poisonous … regularly posting wrong and unverifiable things … inserting random editorialization and trying to juice its paid subscriber count.”

My point isn’t that Musk is antisemitic. His threat to sue the Anti-Defamation League over its reports showing a rise in antisemitic posts on X since Musk bought it, doesn’t reveal antisemitism. But it does offer another illustration of how he uses his vast wealth to control what people know.

That’s the underlying problem — the increasing power of billionaires like Musk to determine what information users get. It’s a power that threatens our democracy. “X” is rapidly becoming a cesspool of odious lies, hate speech, and powerful voices (like Musk’s) arbitrarily directing people to misleading sources.

And I’m not just talking about the war between Gaza militants and Israel.

A recent study published by the European Commission concluded that Russian propaganda about its war in Ukraine has reached more people on X this year than it did last year.
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs
Oct 11, 2023, 15:05
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Re: Midday Legal Briefs Oct 11, 2023, 15:05
Oct 11, 2023, 15:05
 
FUCK NO.

policed speech is no speech at all.

It is better for speech to be public and let the people or even groups like the ADL or others respond in public.

no government anywhere can be trusted to determine what the truth is or is not.
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