RogueSix wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 13:48:
lol@n00b excuse

GIT GUD

I've come to enjoy the much more smug and condescending "skill issue".

Xylemon wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 23:40:
From what I understand a lot of the negative reviews aren't about CS2 itself but rather the way they went about removing CS:GO. You lost all your earned achievements, custom installs, etc. as soon as CS2 released. I can imagine if you wanted to play on your favorite custom map/server that night, you probably weren't in a good mood. I'm not quite sure why they went about it they way did...

Whoa really?
They wiped the folder without asking?
I play CS:S actually when I want to do some GunGame Deathmatch Turbo... and yeah that'd be kind of annoying if they wiped it out without warning.

From what I understand a lot of the negative reviews aren't about CS2 itself but rather the way they went about removing CS:GO. You lost all your earned achievements, custom installs, etc. as soon as CS2 released. I can imagine if you wanted to play on your favorite custom map/server that night, you probably weren't in a good mood. I'm not quite sure why they went about it they way did...

The moment I read "We did away with tickrates" was the moment I skipped over this entirely. Unlike Valve, I know what a tickrate is and why you want a FIXED tickrate, ALWAYS. Usually as high as possible. Doing away with it means whenever you have a ping of 50ms or more you might as well stop playing.

But the real kicker is that they merged the reviews from CS:GO into CS2 steam page.

phinn wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 13:21:

RaZ0r! wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 13:10:
I think it's a good call getting rid of CS:GO minus the lack of macOS support. This should avoid splitting the player base like they did with way back with 1.6.

Agree but they explained the lack of macOS support, it was less than 1% of the players. Who the hell wants to game on a Mac with terrible graphics performance with the iGPU, can't use an RTX card or any other GPU with them, is there even 240Hz or Vulkan support in macOS? Makes total sense Valve dropped it.

Apple Silicon has the GPU for it and the Metal API is great, but I get it from a player count perspective.

phinn wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 12:51:
CS2 is the lowest rated valve game? Wait what? This is a hugely upgraded and hugely anticipated release that was tested with "pros" for many months prior to get it right. Wtf is wrong these idiots on the internet? I'm just beside myself with how fking stupid these people are to review bomb such a major upgrade.

I think initially there was a big backlash against Left 4 Dead 2 as well. I myself wasn't too happy with it. Over time, though, Valve did exactly the right things, and it ended up very positive. If you essentially remove the need for the first while greatly expanding on it and making it better, that usually changes opinions.

Skuggasveinn wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 13:44:
I think for many, myself included, the biggest problem with CS2 is hitboxes not registering

lol@n00b excuse

GIT GUD

I think for many, myself included, the biggest problem with CS2 is hitboxes not registering, Valve has confirmed this and will be fixing this but there is another issue and that is the visual mismatch created between movement and hit registration. CS2 sub-ticket rate system was meant to resolve the need for higher tick rate servers by registering the sub ticket rate of an action and apply it on the server level, sounds good but what it really means is that something can get registered on the previous frame, with CS-GO it would always get registered on the next frame.

This is a huge change that creates a weird disconnect between what you see and what you get. Players are used to have to wait for network to catch up, that something can get corrected after that fact is new and weird. On paper sub tick rate sounds good, but players are not willing to re-learn, they want the Counter Strike that they know.
Valve should have just upped the tick rate to 128 like the community has been asking them to do for years and resolved everything on the next frame like CS has always done. Maybe the new system is better, but is a major change that everyone needs to adapt to and a large part of the playerbase simply don't want to.

RaZ0r! wrote on Oct 10, 2023, 13:10:
I think it's a good call getting rid of CS:GO minus the lack of macOS support. This should avoid splitting the player base like they did with way back with 1.6.

Agree but they explained the lack of macOS support, it was less than 1% of the players. Who the hell wants to game on a Mac with terrible graphics performance with the iGPU, can't use an RTX card or any other GPU with them, is there even 240Hz or Vulkan support in macOS? Makes total sense Valve dropped it.

Why is anyone even playing this commercialized garbage anyway? CS BETA 7 FTMFW, baby! That was the last decent version!

I think it's a good call getting rid of CS:GO minus the lack of macOS support. This should avoid splitting the player base like they did with way back with 1.6.

CS2 is the lowest rated valve game? Wait what? This is a hugely upgraded and hugely anticipated release that was tested with "pros" for many months prior to get it right. Wtf is wrong these idiots on the internet? I'm just beside myself with how fking stupid these people are to review bomb such a major upgrade.