Out of the Blue

I'm declaring operation upgrade a success, though it's not as straightforward as that. First off, the hardware part was pretty easy. Swapping my Corsair RM1000X PSU for the RM1200X went smoothly. Each being fully modular helped, and I did not even laze-out and reuse any of the cables. I did forget one SATA power connection for a set of case fans, but that was an easy fix. The cabling under my case backplate isn't as neat as before, but it's not bad, and no one can see it. I installed the RTX 4090 and for some reason it required two attempts to install updated graphics drivers and an extra couple of reboots to come back as expected, but after those oddities it was fine. As I previously noted, I thought it was only a remote chance that the graphics card swap would clear up my Diablo IV crashing, but as I went through the process I became more and more enamored of the idea that the problem might be solved by the PSU replacement. After all, my other symptoms are these occasional odd USB and sound resets, which could be from power dropouts. But that pet theory died quickly, as it did not take long to recreate my crash. Now this is the point where I must confess that despite complaining about it more than once, I had not taken this too seriously before. The other glitches aside, the only crashes were in Diablo, and I thought it might be a game bug. I embarked on this hardware path because I had intended to upgrade my graphics card anyway, and it wouldn't hurt if that fixed the problem. So I finally started in on more hardcore troubleshooting. After running some diagnostics a memory hardware error popped up. This was a surprising development, but a welcome one, since it was so tangible. I swapped the RAM sticks to reseat them, and this time they passed the test. By then it was pretty late, so I have not yet had the chance to see if this clears up those crashes, but I'm pretty optimistic. I'm also happy to know I can pass along my old hardware with a clear conscience that I'm not saddling someone with broken stuff.

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Re: Woman trapped in outhouse toilet
Sep 24, 2023, 11:53
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The Flying Penguin wrote on Sep 23, 2023, 15:44:
Memory:
Coincidently, I have a friend's PC on my bench. It was prone to BSODing with various errors. It BSOD'd on me a dozen times in the past few days...
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In the end I found several issues, but nothing solved the BSOD problem until I slightly underclocked his RAM.
with friends like that, who needs enemies Wink

Great job on figuring out "all" of the problems. Thumbsup
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Woman trapped in outhouse toilet
Sep 23, 2023, 15:44
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Sep 23, 2023, 15:44
 
Ok, reminds me of an outhouse joke (Rodney Dangerfield joke, if I recall):

Two guys enter a two-seat outhouse. One guy finishes first, and as he pulls up his pants, some change falls out of his pocket down the hole. After staring down the hole a long time, he takes out a $50 bill, and throws it down the hole after the change. The other guy, still on his seat, looks at him in amazement and asks him why the hell he did that. First guy answers: "Well, you don't think I'm going down there for just 50 cents, do you?"

{rimshot!}

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F-35 Crash:

In another article I read, a Marine spokesperson said that the F-35 (and presumably other fighters?) have a feature that wipes all radios (channels used and encryption keys) and navigation maps when the pilot ejects, to prevent that information from falling into enemy hands. I would presume that includes the Transponder, which may explain why they couldn't track it. The transponder on a military plane can be turned off during combat, but it would normally be on when flying a training mission like this.

Memory:
Coincidently, I have a friend's PC on my bench. It was prone to BSODing with various errors. It BSOD'd on me a dozen times in the past few days, but never while running and always on boot (although he says it sometimes happened to him while running).

In the end I found several issues, but nothing solved the BSOD problem until I slightly underclocked his RAM. Now it's rock stable. DDR3, four sticks, and the stick pairs aren't matched. Curiously, before I underclocked it, it still consistently passed MEMTEST86, several times. My Spidey sense kept telling me it was RAM, but the failure of MEMTEST86 to find anything was perplexing. But AIDA64 did fail once which made me start thinking about RAM again.

It's an old 8th gen Core i7. It also had intermittent USB issues which I think was a combination of having BIOS configured for Legacy USB, which Win10 doesn't seem to like, and possibly corrupt USB drivers, which I force reinstalled. CPU was also getting hot (but only under an extreme load like AIDA64, and it would throttle properly at 90C) due to a broken HSF mount (those old, crappy Intel coolers with plastic pins - I had a better HSF in the junk bin) and dried up thermal paste. But none of that was causing the BSODs, apparently. I think it's just getting old, and it's hardly worth looking for replacement RAM for it. He's not a gamer.

I have now rebooted it 50 times or so, and run AIDA64 for 24 hours without a problem.

This comment was edited on Sep 23, 2023, 16:15.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 23, 2023, 10:16
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Sep 23, 2023, 10:16
 
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the parachute functions properly on Nasa's Osiris-Rex capsule.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 23, 2023, 08:50
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Re: OotB: On the case Sep 23, 2023, 08:50
Sep 23, 2023, 08:50
 
Rather nice upgrade on your PC, hope you cleared up the crashes. I just upgraded mine to a lesser extent last month, but with a much more limited budget, I could not swap out my Nvidia 960 yet, but it still plays the games I play in 2k. I will probably go the AMD route though when I do replace it.

I was browsing Steam this morning and I noticed the new Mortal Combat was priced at $70? That takes a lot of egotism to price it at that level since its scope is pathetic compared to other games at that price. Heck, there are tons of games priced less that have tons more content. I am amazed that foolish people pay that much for it.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 19:50
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Sep 22, 2023, 19:50
 
Speaking of hardware failures.

I just discovered that an EVGA 850GQ power supply in one of my whitebox servers has had a bad 5V rail out of the box. Up until today, it was an NVMe based compute box so I never plugged anything in to the SATA power connectors. Today I tried adding six SSDs to it for a new ZFS pool and the system would power on for half a second and turn off. Breadboarded the whole machine and then slowly started adding components back to it to discover the culprit. Swapped cables since the PSU is modular, no dice. Tried a completely different power supply, system booted right up.

Called EVGA and they set up an advanced replacement with zero hassle. It was a pleasant experience outside of having a bad 5V rail.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 19:13
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Sep 22, 2023, 19:13
 
Watter wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 14:25:
swapped the RAM sticks to reseat them

Does this mean you kept the potentially offending RAM in your machine, but just reseated in another slot? If so, I'd be sure to run a thorough, multi-hour test on them. Bad memory has always been the bane of my builds - to the point that it's the FIRST place I look when I have any oddities going on.
I've been through a couple sets of RAM over the past decade. Some may recall my discussing it here. One set was under warranty so replaced for free. That's basically the only major issue I have had.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 16:19
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Sep 22, 2023, 16:19
 
Lulz. The end was almost like a comedy skit...
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 15:10
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Sep 22, 2023, 15:10
 
I watched about 10 minutes of this chase LIVE as it was happening yesterday.
Glad to see how it ended. https://youtu.be/IMCO05XCAew?si=faA9lipxBLJrxvO2
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Sep 22, 2023, 14:57
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Sep 22, 2023, 14:57
 
Gratz on your upgrades and fixes, Blue! Lighter

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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 14:56
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Sep 22, 2023, 14:56
 
F-35
Ackchyually no, it does not shed light on anything.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 14:50
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Watter wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 14:25:
swapped the RAM sticks to reseat them

Does this mean you kept the potentially offending RAM in your machine, but just reseated in another slot? If so, I'd be sure to run a thorough, multi-hour test on them. Bad memory has always been the bane of my builds - to the point that it's the FIRST place I look when I have any oddities going on.
I kept the potentially offending RAM, and more or less in the same slots. I swapped them for each other. Maybe because I've never had bad memory plagues, but my first thought is that reseating it could help, and it seems to have. I'll test it further as I go along, but I didn't want to leave a brand-new 4090 stress testing unattended overnight for some reason. Flamethrower
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 14:41
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I posted when you first described the symptoms asking to prime95 for 24 hours!!!
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swapped the RAM sticks to reseat them

Does this mean you kept the potentially offending RAM in your machine, but just reseated in another slot? If so, I'd be sure to run a thorough, multi-hour test on them. Bad memory has always been the bane of my builds - to the point that it's the FIRST place I look when I have any oddities going on.

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Sep 22, 2023, 14:14
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Steele Johnson wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 14:05:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 13:14:
Steele Johnson wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 13:09:
"After running some diagnostics a memory hardware error popped up"

That will do it. And it will most likely fix all those other issues you were having too
I'm pretty sure we mentioned memory in prior threads discussing Blue's issues. Wink

Yup. You'd think he was a mac user or something. Just joking around, Stephen! 😁 Look on the bright side, there's nothing wrong with a graphics upgrade in general!
Haha. Well as I say, an upgrade was planned already. Doing it amid this problem was admittedly a lazy way to see if that would fix things, which matches how I had been dealing with this up to now. As I say, I was definitely thrown by how this didn't show up in other games, leading me to underestimate the problem.
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 14:05
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 13:14:
Steele Johnson wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 13:09:
"After running some diagnostics a memory hardware error popped up"

That will do it. And it will most likely fix all those other issues you were having too
I'm pretty sure we mentioned memory in prior threads discussing Blue's issues. Wink

Yup. You'd think he was a mac user or something. Just joking around, Stephen! 😁 Look on the bright side, there's nothing wrong with a graphics upgrade in general!
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Re: OotB: On the case
Sep 22, 2023, 13:14
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Steele Johnson wrote on Sep 22, 2023, 13:09:
"After running some diagnostics a memory hardware error popped up"

That will do it. And it will most likely fix all those other issues you were having too
I'm pretty sure we mentioned memory in prior threads discussing Blue's issues. Wink
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"After running some diagnostics a memory hardware error popped up"

That will do it. And it will most likely fix all those other issues you were having too
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