El Pit wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 12:29:
Warning soundtrack

Rad song. My PC is too old to play this game. Maybe in a decade. Also, my room can be almost 90Fd degrees during extreme heat waves.

Lord Tea wrote on Sep 13, 2023, 02:07:
Of course not. CDPR is the best example for a „fool me once…“ situation.

For that to be true, they'd have had to misled people more than once, has that actually been the case?

Besides, CP2077 IS a fun game now, played through it a couple months ago and really enjoyed it, very few games, and none of them were major.

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

I use HWMonitor because you just download a zip, extract, and then put the utility anywhere. No need for an installer, or any of that .NET crap, etc.

HWMonitor

ForgedReality wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 22:29:
Top bad I likely won't be buying anything from this company again, at least not at full price, and sure as hell not pre-ordering. Never again. 🙂

Of course not. CDPR is the best example for a „fool me once…“ situation. Some people will gladly take the shame as it seems.

What’s alarming to me are the spec requirements for 4k/ultra/no RT:
Nvidia - 3080 will do
AMD - 7900 XTX minimum

fujiJuice wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 21:43:

Slick wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 18:00:
Also to whoever said: "they're ditching this engine so they know they don't have to optomize it". Have you played CP2077? It looks phenomenal at very playable framerates.

Hey, their programmer said your system might overheat, not me. I was just offering an opinion on why. I did play CP2077 and it was great time.

Demanding does not equal poorly optimized.

There's probably a reason why this update isn't coming to last gen consoles. They're upping the game. I'd bet on more elaborate and numerous AI being responsible for that CPU hit.

Top bad I likely won't be buying anything from this company again, at least not at full price, and sure as hell not pre-ordering. Never again. 🙂

FloorPie wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 20:47:
I've turned off auto updates for my Cyberpunk install on GoG to be safe with this given its on an older machine at this point. I figure no matter the heat that it probably wont run too well on a 4c8t chip.

On the contrary, part of the reason for this pronouncement is the fact that they've apparently fixed the problem the game had previously, where it was not properly utilizing all of your available cores/threads. So a lot of people are going to have the same or even better performance, despite the new stuff they're adding.

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Slick wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 18:00:
Also to whoever said: "they're ditching this engine so they know they don't have to optomize it". Have you played CP2077? It looks phenomenal at very playable framerates.

Hey, their programmer said your system might overheat, not me. I was just offering an opinion on why. I did play CP2077 and it was great time.

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

HWmonitor and HWinfo are good ones.

I've turned off auto updates for my Cyberpunk install on GoG to be safe with this given its on an older machine at this point. I figure no matter the heat that it probably wont run too well on a 4c8t chip.

That's why I finally bought it on GOG breaking my wait until all in one edition. I know I'm not upgrading my 2013 plus bits rig anytime soon, so now I have the current GOG version safely installed, a copy of the installers on external HDD and blurays.

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

I just use Coretemp and GPUTemp, they're super small, lightweight, and display the temp beside your clock when they're minimized. I think that's all you really need unless you want an overlay while playing, but just for temps I think that's overkill.

Reading between the lines this PSA is for overclockers. Most of us don't tune for stable 100% sustained loads, it's easy to go beyond that and never have a game crash. But the moment you try to run an Aida64 burn-in or something, craaaaash. Also, +1 for Hwinfo, it's everything you need, nothing you don't. It also tends to have more accurate readings than other software, which I can neither understand nor explain, but apparently, it's so.

Also to whoever said: "they're ditching this engine so they know they don't have to optomize it". Have you played CP2077? It looks phenomenal at very playable framerates. Crysis was worse than this for the hardware of its day. Not to mention Starfield looks measurably worse and gets measurably worse performance.

I use Fan Control. Also has a github repo for it!
https://getfancontrol.com/

I use it to control the fans and monitor things - takes a bit of effort to set up but works well with my old ASRock Taichi Z390 motherboard. Simple UI at least.

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:42:
Here are some good things to look into...

Burrito of Peace wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 16:14:
Libre Hardware Monitor...

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll be sure to check it all out.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 16:14:

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

Libre Hardware Monitor since I am assuming you are on Windows. Temps, speeds, deltas...everything you could want in a monitoring software and it is free without a bunch of crapware bloat bundled in.

Seconding this recommendation, it's excellent.

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

Libre Hardware Monitor since I am assuming you are on Windows. Temps, speeds, deltas...everything you could want in a monitoring software and it is free without a bunch of crapware bloat bundled in.

Desalus wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 15:13:
Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

Here are some good things to look into.
https://www.hwinfo.com/

Does not require an MSI card . MSI Afterburner https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards

The following two tech YouTubers have made videos on this subject, grab a coffee and watch both for ideas.
How to get On Screen Stats to show on games! EASY and FREE! JayZ2Cents https://youtu.be/aPOQ77219fE?si=HaK5D1SiYeD7iENB
Best Programs for Your Gaming PC: How to Check Thermals, Bottlenecks, & Use Command Prompt GamersNexus https://youtu.be/XqY-BL5pLjQ?si=mZZr1tkrk71P6Aop

The Last of Us had a built-in Hardware Overlay that was extremely adjustable (items, position, size etc.) https://youtu.be/KuB1GJPuLcU?si=fkw8mm9w6zXGcLz5
Only good for the last of us, but if you have that game, it’s kind of cool to tinker with.

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I have a 13900K with AIO and a 4090 with AIO. Temps really haven't been a problem for me because I'm not trying to play everything at 400 FPS. I generally stick to 85 FPS for the best HDR settings, and only play with higher frames for shooters. I've already put a power limit of 75% on the 4090, and I think I'll look into under-volting my CPU. Res is 3840x1600 so not as demanding as 4K.

Not that I'm concerned about this warning, but what software do people recommend for monitoring CPU and GPU load and temps? I built a new PC and I'm curious how well everything is cooled.

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 12, 2023, 13:27:
Viral Marketing at its worst.

We use everything your system has to offer. Our new XYZ dlc is so demanding it could put your processor into an Nth Loop Critical Overheat Cycle and neuter your neighbors.
sigh

I figure people have been falling for the "based on a true story" ad bait since forever ago, they'll probably fall for this.