Sepharo wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 17:13:

thestryker wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 16:57:

Verno wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 16:33:
I thought you were actually asking in good faith but pretty clear that’s not the case.

You gave nothing but bad faith reasoning so you shouldn't be surprised by my response.

I assumed that he detected that you were one of these people who will pretend to be oblivious to Steam's myriad features.
Or if you're willing to acknowledge their existence, will just claim they're useless.

If you only see these as game launchers or as an obstacle between you and the game... then you won't possibly be able to understand why someone would prefer the feature-rich Steam over another launcher.

What features are these which positively impact the playing of a game? Everyone always says "features" but never actually says what they are. I use steam's chat features predominantly and they're great, but I use them whether I'm playing a game through steam or not. Workshop makes mods easy which is a good convenience aspect, but it existing doesn't prevent me from using the same mods on a non steam copy. I'm sure there are a bunch I don't use which is why I've asked what they are and nobody ever seems to have an answer.

Slashman wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 17:34:

Sepharo wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 17:13:

thestryker wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 16:57:

Verno wrote on Aug 25, 2023, 16:33:
I thought you were actually asking in good faith but pretty clear that’s not the case.

You gave nothing but bad faith reasoning so you shouldn't be surprised by my response.

I assumed that he detected that you were one of these people who will pretend to be oblivious to Steam's myriad features.
Or if you're willing to acknowledge their existence, will just claim they're useless.

If you only see these as game launchers or as an obstacle between you and the game... then you won't possibly be able to understand why someone would prefer the feature-rich Steam over another launcher.

That's basically what it comes down to. You don't care...other people do. A LOT of other people from the looks of things...and that's what matters.

Did the lot of you also NOT buy Diablo 4 because of the horrible reputation Blizzard has over the things it has done to employees for years. How many of you did not buy an EA game because of the wrongful things it has done to its employees. How about Ubisoft? No?

For some strange reason...Steam is the whipping post of the day because they are bigger than Epic and deserve to be taken down because how dare they stop making games you want and run a successful online store? The horror!!!

I'm not sure who you're responding to here, but personally I don't buy actibliz or ubi games anymore because of exactly that. Do I like their games? Sure some of them, but I'd rather not support companies that don't appear to have any interest in changing. EA is a bit of a different animal as their wrongdoings (at least that I'm aware of) are more along the lines of standard US corporate terrible. They're not a good company by any stretch, but they also aren't any different than any other big publisher in the ways they're bad. I don't get many of their games, but that's because I'm not interested in most of them.

I don't think there's anything wrong with Valve they're just not better than anyone else in the space either.