Beamer wrote on May 25, 2023, 11:45:

Xero wrote on May 25, 2023, 10:48:
Maybe I should try the original again. I didn't get too far with it and found the shoot mechanics with the flashlight awkward. Graphically it looked good, but as does most Remedy games. I think they prioritize tech. over game sometimes. Granted I enjoyed the heck out of Max Payne 1 and 2, not so much 3. I found Control to be so damn weird. Tried giving it a second, and maybe even 3rd chance, but I can't get into it no matter how much I try.

I hated Alan Wake, but I played through it.
As background, I generally dislike games where I'm weak and ammo is scarce. I also loved MP3, and while it's the most recent MP I've played, I think it's my favorite.

But I actually see things in common between the two. MP3 was the game I had to quickload the most in my life. There were many, many, many times that I kept dying in firefights. Partially, probably, that I played on console and couldn't quicksave. Partially because it was really hard. Alan Wake also made me redo a few sections so much that I wanted to puke, but in those, I often felt that my success or failure wasn't due to skill, but stupid mechanics.

I really hated this game. I don't know why I finished it.

Yeah this is also one of my reasons I can't get through most of the Resident Evil games. I just hate being low on ammo all the time and with the lack of inventory space, it drives me nuts. I do recall Alan Wake also giving me low ammo vibes. Probably another reason I didn't care much for it to keep at it.

Xero wrote on May 25, 2023, 10:48:
Maybe I should try the original again. I didn't get too far with it and found the shoot mechanics with the flashlight awkward. Graphically it looked good, but as does most Remedy games. I think they prioritize tech. over game sometimes. Granted I enjoyed the heck out of Max Payne 1 and 2, not so much 3. I found Control to be so damn weird. Tried giving it a second, and maybe even 3rd chance, but I can't get into it no matter how much I try.

I hated Alan Wake, but I played through it.
As background, I generally dislike games where I'm weak and ammo is scarce. I also loved MP3, and while it's the most recent MP I've played, I think it's my favorite.

But I actually see things in common between the two. MP3 was the game I had to quickload the most in my life. There were many, many, many times that I kept dying in firefights. Partially, probably, that I played on console and couldn't quicksave. Partially because it was really hard. Alan Wake also made me redo a few sections so much that I wanted to puke, but in those, I often felt that my success or failure wasn't due to skill, but stupid mechanics.

I really hated this game. I don't know why I finished it.

Xero wrote on May 25, 2023, 10:48:
Maybe I should try the original again. I didn't get too far with it and found the shoot mechanics with the flashlight awkward. Graphically it looked good, but as does most Remedy games. I think they prioritize tech. over game sometimes. Granted I enjoyed the heck out of Max Payne 1 and 2, not so much 3. I found Control to be so damn weird. Tried giving it a second, and maybe even 3rd chance, but I can't get into it no matter how much I try.

I was into Control for the story, not the gameplay. the gameplay was...ehh. There were a few sequences that were amazing, but most of the game was pretty visually unappealing to me. But I HAD TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. Alan Wake, I'd given up on the first time I played it, but right before the AWE expansion came out, I played through it on Easy (still died a surprising number of times). It's got an OK story, I liked Control's better.

Maybe I should try the original again. I didn't get too far with it and found the shoot mechanics with the flashlight awkward. Graphically it looked good, but as does most Remedy games. I think they prioritize tech. over game sometimes. Granted I enjoyed the heck out of Max Payne 1 and 2, not so much 3. I found Control to be so damn weird. Tried giving it a second, and maybe even 3rd chance, but I can't get into it no matter how much I try.

HoSpanky wrote on May 25, 2023, 06:43:
It’s part of the Ultimate edition, yeah. The main focus of it is a creature that can only be damaged in the light follows you around. Also there are literally cutscenes where Alan Wake somewhat communicates with Jesse. You didn’t play through it and NOT know what it was about. The mission shows up after you beat the main game, as does the Foundation expansion that I found utterly boring.

I remember there was a sequence that was in the motel where Alan Wake shows up and there is some voiceover work that ties Alan Wake in to Control. Don't remember that particular gameplay loop, however.

Clearly another playthrough is in order.

Awesome, AW2
I hope this washes the bad taste out of my mouth of the poor job done on the first one's remaster , which was a technical nightmare of mistake after mistake. Alan Wake remaster was one of the few games I've 'refunded' due to how glitchy it was for me.

Burrito of Peace wrote on May 24, 2023, 23:45:
Nope, can't say that I have played the AWE expansion. I have the Ultimate Edition on Steam but it doesn't list that as a separate DLC. Maybe I did play through it and not known it?

It’s part of the Ultimate edition, yeah. The main focus of it is a creature that can only be damaged in the light follows you around. Also there are literally cutscenes where Alan Wake somewhat communicates with Jesse. You didn’t play through it and NOT know what it was about. The mission shows up after you beat the main game, as does the Foundation expansion that I found utterly boring.

Burrito of Peace wrote on May 24, 2023, 23:45:
Nope, can't say that I have played the AWE expansion. I have the Ultimate Edition on Steam but it doesn't list that as a separate DLC. Maybe I did play through it and not known it?

Hmm. Now I got to see if I have it. https://control.fandom.com/wiki/AWE_(expansion)

Nope, can't say that I have played the AWE expansion. I have the Ultimate Edition on Steam but it doesn't list that as a separate DLC. Maybe I did play through it and not known it?

Burrito of Peace wrote on May 24, 2023, 20:37:
I had hoped to see a tie-in with Control but that is probably buried in the game somewhere.

I mean, you played the AWE expansion for Control, yeah? It was basically a 3 hour advertisement for this game. I do think it's likely Jesse will make an appearance at some point, but I don't know if she can step outside The Oldest House again. Might just be a phone call or something, she can't go there in person unless her powers stay in TOH. She'd just...end it.

MacLeod wrote on May 24, 2023, 20:32:
I've waited 13 years and through teases and tangentially related games for a continuation of AW. I'm in.

Right there with you.

I had hoped to see a tie-in with Control but that is probably buried in the game somewhere.

I've waited 13 years and through teases and tangentially related games for a continuation of AW. I'm in.

I do see we're sticking with the first one's theme of having a bad release date... a week after the new Assassin's Creed game this time. (Same day as RDR for the first) (Also Spider-Man 2 is in fall, so it could technically be in that time frame too)

This is one crazy year of remakes and sequels.