DarkCntry wrote on May 22, 2023, 19:00:

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 15:46:

Ant wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:35:

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:22:

JeffD wrote on May 22, 2023, 03:03:
voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos.

Nope, a lot of it is the voice files.

Videos are way bigger than audios though. Videos usually have audios inside too.

I just remember the Titanfall example where like 60% of the 50GB or something was audio.

Do games even have videos anymore? The cutscenes have been in engine for like over a decade.

There's a lot of Bink usage for Jedi Survivor if you want to see a recent game that still uses standalone video formats.

Ahh yeah. I suppose I am forgetting that it could be a video of something that was made in-engine. Was thinking of the old tradition of "cinematics" where it was a completely different render. Still does seem kind of dated thinking about including video files with the game though... well other than the logos at startup

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 15:46:

Ant wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:35:

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:22:

JeffD wrote on May 22, 2023, 03:03:
voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos.

Nope, a lot of it is the voice files.

Videos are way bigger than audios though. Videos usually have audios inside too.

I just remember the Titanfall example where like 60% of the 50GB or something was audio.

Do games even have videos anymore? The cutscenes have been in engine for like over a decade.

There's a lot of Bink usage for Jedi Survivor if you want to see a recent game that still uses standalone video formats.

Ant wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:35:

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:22:

JeffD wrote on May 22, 2023, 03:03:
voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos.

Nope, a lot of it is the voice files.

Videos are way bigger than audios though. Videos usually have audios inside too.

I just remember the Titanfall example where like 60% of the 50GB or something was audio.

Do games even have videos anymore? The cutscenes have been in engine for like over a decade.

Those are quite modest actually. A 1080ti is recommended? That is a potato by today's standards. No way can you get all the flashy bells and whistles of today's technology with that, so I'm wondering how accurate are these? Perhaps, early spec. sheet just to have something up? I don't know, seems fishy to me.

Sepharo wrote on May 22, 2023, 09:22:

JeffD wrote on May 22, 2023, 03:03:
voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos.

Nope, a lot of it is the voice files.

Videos are way bigger than audios though. Videos usually have audios inside too.

JeffD wrote on May 22, 2023, 03:03:
voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos.

Nope, a lot of it is the voice files.

voice files and motion capture do not take up space. it is textures and videos. If I recall, doesn't the current mk like to use video clips for x-ray impacts?

VaranDragon wrote on May 22, 2023, 02:34:

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 22:17:

Razumen wrote on May 21, 2023, 20:10:

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

Welcome to the future, old man.

Yah got me there. I still remember when the very first Mortal Kombat hit arcades

Same. Still no reason why something as basic as MK should take up 100+GB of space, even with fancy 4K resolution textures.

It's a very detailed AAA game with multiple modes, including a story with LOTS of voice acting, which in itself takes up a lot of space. Calling it basic is kind of a disservice imho.

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 22:17:

Razumen wrote on May 21, 2023, 20:10:

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

Welcome to the future, old man.

Yah got me there. I still remember when the very first Mortal Kombat hit arcades

Same. Still no reason why something as basic as MK should take up 100+GB of space, even with fancy 4K resolution textures.

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 22:17:

Razumen wrote on May 21, 2023, 20:10:

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

Welcome to the future, old man.

Yah got me there. I still remember when the very first Mortal Kombat hit arcades

I still remember how big and awesome MK1 for DOS (3 3.5" disks, but can't remember if it needed a HDD -- can't find its HDD's install requirements) was in my first custom built IBM tower PC (486 DX2/66)! Although, the game kept crashing because of SB16 bug until Acclaim fixed it. This was back in end of 1993/beginning of 1994.

This comment was edited on May 22, 2023, 06:21.

Razumen wrote on May 21, 2023, 20:10:

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

Welcome to the future, old man.

Yah got me there. I still remember when the very first Mortal Kombat hit arcades

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

Welcome to the future, old man.

well, besides it being prettier and having that crypt mode that's pretty extensive it just runs better. Oddly enough MK 11 runs better for me on the steam deck than 10 does even though 10 is deck compatibility verified and 11 is not. In fact, it says its not steam deck compatible which just goes to show you cant always go by that. It probably has to do with multiplayer, which I wouldn't even consider on the steam deck. One place as an example is on the towers on 10 it really gets boggled down and on 11 it does not. MK 10 does not have Ultrawide screen support and 11 does so there are improvements there. I wonder if it has to do with uncompressed files maybe for accessing don't know for certain.

I'm going to need a bigger potato.

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 12:59:
A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?

You still use old spinning drives for computer games?

Braden wrote on May 21, 2023, 13:49:

Woundedmoon wrote on May 21, 2023, 13:40:
MK 11 is 116.5 Gigs on my hard drive, so its right in line with their last game.

Yep, but MK10 was only 36GB and MK9 before it was 10GB. So that's a hell of a large HD requirement increase over time for a game that is fundamentally the same with each release, bar shinier graphics and some extra modes. Did something new happen in MX11 to justify tripling the install size?

I feel like 100+ Gigs isnt that rare anymore.
Final Fantasy 15, Red Dead Redemption 2, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Destiny 2. ARK: Survival Evolved, Borderlands 3, Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Quantum Break, Mass Effect Legendary Edition....thats what a guick google search picked up. Admittedly, two of those are collections of multiple games. Diablo 4 beta was like 70+gigs, the final game will undoubtedly be more. Lastly, if this game is going to have a story mode....then its not just a simple fighter under the hood.

Woundedmoon wrote on May 21, 2023, 13:40:
MK 11 is 116.5 Gigs on my hard drive, so its right in line with their last game.

Yep, but MK10 was only 36GB and MK9 before it was 10GB. So that's a hell of a large HD requirement increase over time for a game that is fundamentally the same with each release, bar shinier graphics and some extra modes. Did something new happen in MX11 to justify tripling the install size?

MK 11 is 116.5 Gigs on my hard drive, so its right in line with their last game.

A single fighting game now takes up almost as much HD space as Elden Ring and Witcher 3 combined?