Steam Dropping Windows 7/8 Next Year [Mar 28, 2023, 11:59 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Valve
announces that at the start of next year, Steam will discontinue support
for Windows 7 and Windows 8:
As of January 1 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 operating systems. After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows. In order to continue running Steam and any games or other products purchased through Steam, users will need to update to a more recent version of Windows.
The newest features in Steam rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome, which no longer functions on older versions of Windows. In addition, future versions of Steam will require Windows feature and security updates only present in Windows 10 and above.
You don’t own your games.
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
Maybe, but there are pros/cons to the digital world we live in now. I can install and play any game even bought 18 years ago when I made my Steam account on any of my computers with a click. Pretty awesome. I would have long lost the CD cases. No reason to support deprecated operating systems it just costs money/time better spent elsewhere.
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever, I was a bit concerned reading this. Like how long until they cut support for Win10 and I lose access to like 500 games? Out of curiosity I checked out the most recent Steam hardware/software survey to see how many Steam users were still on Win 7 or Win 8.
I was surprised to see that Windows 7 + 8 users make up under 2% of the userbase, and almost 2/3rds of users are on Windows 10. I forgot that it's been like 8 years since Windows 10 came out.
I was surprised to see that Windows 7 + 8 users make up under 2% of the userbase, and almost 2/3rds of users are on Windows 10. I forgot that it's been like 8 years since Windows 10 came out.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:00:
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever
Microsoft has rolled back the TPM requirement for most hardware that meets the rest of the required specs.
Mine has no TPM and Windows 11 installed just fine on it, it's never complained about it (B550 mobo / 3700x processor). How old is your motherboard/processor?
Considering how long Steam supported Win7, I wouldn't worry.
FYI, whe thr time comes, the Win11 hardware restrictions are easily bypassed. I have pre Intel 7th Gen PCs, with or TPM, running Win11 just fine.
FYI, whe thr time comes, the Win11 hardware restrictions are easily bypassed. I have pre Intel 7th Gen PCs, with or TPM, running Win11 just fine.
"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."
- Joanna Maciejewska
- Joanna Maciejewska
RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:Games purchased on EGS are also fully digital. Just an FYI...
You don't own your games.
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
"Listen, Peter... with great horsepower comes... the sickest drifts..." - source
RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:
You don’t own your games.
And? Tell me something I don't know that hasn't been in EULA's or related since the what 70's? *shrug*
-Gothic Wizard
https://cyberpunk-news.online/
https://cyberpunk-news.online/
HoSpanky wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:06:Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:00:
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever
Microsoft has rolled back the TPM requirement for most hardware that meets the rest of the required specs.
Mine has no TPM and Windows 11 installed just fine on it, it's never complained about it (B550 mobo / 3700x processor). How old is your motherboard/processor?
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 14:26:Your cpu base freq is 4GHz, how can you even sleep at night - much less even surf the web.
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Not to mention the cpu probably does not comply with required security enhancements.
You should be ashamed of yourself. /sarcasm
Kxmode wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:42:RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:Games purchased on EGS are also fully digital. Just an FYI...
You don't own your games.
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
Also the fact that EGS uses Chromium and will likely be following suit. Oops
Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."
- Joanna Maciejewska
- Joanna Maciejewska
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 14:26:HoSpanky wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:06:Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:00:
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever
Microsoft has rolled back the TPM requirement for most hardware that meets the rest of the required specs.
Mine has no TPM and Windows 11 installed just fine on it, it's never complained about it (B550 mobo / 3700x processor). How old is your motherboard/processor?
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Same thing I get with my i7-7700HQ. Sure, the processors only 5 years old, but it can't run Windows 11.
The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Actually just managed to install it using the normal media creation tool from Microsoft. It didn't even tell me my CPU wasn't good enough, it just installed. I guess that PC Health Check thing is either out of date or is just there to discourage people from trying.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
I still have the watermark on my screen telling me that while I am indeed runnning win 11, my CPU doesnt support it. I have yet to have any trouble....but the watermark in the bottom right of the screen is a little anmoying.
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:27:The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Actually just managed to install it using the normal media creation tool from Microsoft. It didn't even tell me my CPU wasn't good enough, it just installed. I guess that PC Health Check thing is either out of date or is just there to discourage people from trying.
They eased up the requirement awhile ago since TPM isn't a default UEFI flag on a lot of systems that meet the requirement and it was causing confusion in the industry. I don't think they ever updated the PC Health App.
I still have the watermark on my screen telling me that while I am indeed runnning win 11, my CPU doesnt support it. I have yet to have any trouble....but the watermark in the bottom right of the screen is a little anmoying.
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
You can regedit that out I believe.
I use Arch, btw.
Wilhuf wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 16:27:
I use Arch, btw.
Arch represent!
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.
“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Purveyor of cute, fuzzy, pink bunny slippers.
“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Purveyor of cute, fuzzy, pink bunny slippers.
The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Are greased pigs faster than ungreased pigs?
wrlwnd wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 18:07:No. Just harder to catch.The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Are greased pigs faster than ungreased pigs?
"Listen, Peter... with great horsepower comes... the sickest drifts..." - source
Demostrably less air friction drag versus grease weight (please use sparingly on your pig).
But can you grease your Arch ?
And, you can *have* functioning games without launchers even if you don't *own* them as a backup safety.
Also I have a thousand Steam games that don't require the Steam interface: just run the .exes.
But can you grease your Arch ?
And, you can *have* functioning games without launchers even if you don't *own* them as a backup safety.
Also I have a thousand Steam games that don't require the Steam interface: just run the .exes.
Copyright © 1996-2024 Stephen Heaslip. All rights reserved.
All trademarks are properties of their respective owners.
Privacy Policy. Manage Cookie Settings.
News CGI copyright © 1999-2024 James "furn" Furness & Blue's News. All rights reserved.
Chatbear v1.5.0/blue++: Page generated 14 October 2024, 22:12.