Steam Dropping Windows 7/8 Next Year [Mar 28, 2023, 11:59 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Valve
announces that at the start of next year, Steam will discontinue support
for Windows 7 and Windows 8:
As of January 1 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 operating systems. After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows. In order to continue running Steam and any games or other products purchased through Steam, users will need to update to a more recent version of Windows.
The newest features in Steam rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome, which no longer functions on older versions of Windows. In addition, future versions of Steam will require Windows feature and security updates only present in Windows 10 and above.
Wilhuf wrote on Mar 29, 2023, 17:26:There's nothing wrong with Windows 10. Plenty of websites tell you how to disable things concerning privacy.
I'm not on board with the abandonment of Win7.
The system requirements for most of my games, in writing, state Windows 7.
Not Windows 10.
I've never had Windows itself throw a BSOD. NVIDIA caused one once, which they acknowledged as their mistake and quickly fixed. As experiences go, Windows 10 64-bit is the most stable OS. It's a solid OS for gaming, and I highly recommend it.
If you require Win7 for legacy apps, it's probably better to set up a second offline machine for that specific need. Meanwhile, Win10 is your primary OS. Continuing to use Win7 has significant security drawbacks.
"That's a tricky bit of floor; deceptively... flat, and unimpeded."
I'm not on board with the abandonment of Win7.
Its been EOL for like 3 years now. Its long past time to stop supporting it.
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I'm not on board with the abandonment of Win7.
The system requirements for most of my games, in writing, state Windows 7.
Not Windows 10.
The system requirements for most of my games, in writing, state Windows 7.
Not Windows 10.
GothicWizard wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 14:20:RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:
You don’t own your games.
And? Tell me something I don't know that hasn't been in EULA's or related since the what 70's? *shrug*
It's also absolutely not true, legally speaking. It's just a myth that's been propagated for so long that most believe it now.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 20:03:Maybe with Quarterdeck Expanded Memory Manager (QEMM).
Demostrably less air friction drag versus grease weight (please use sparingly on your pig).
But can you grease your Arch ?
Let's kick it, old school.
"That's a tricky bit of floor; deceptively... flat, and unimpeded."
Demostrably less air friction drag versus grease weight (please use sparingly on your pig).
But can you grease your Arch ?
And, you can *have* functioning games without launchers even if you don't *own* them as a backup safety.
Also I have a thousand Steam games that don't require the Steam interface: just run the .exes.
But can you grease your Arch ?
And, you can *have* functioning games without launchers even if you don't *own* them as a backup safety.
Also I have a thousand Steam games that don't require the Steam interface: just run the .exes.
wrlwnd wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 18:07:No. Just harder to catch.The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Are greased pigs faster than ungreased pigs?
"That's a tricky bit of floor; deceptively... flat, and unimpeded."
The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Are greased pigs faster than ungreased pigs?
Wilhuf wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 16:27:
I use Arch, btw.
Arch represent!
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I use Arch, btw.
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:27:The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Actually just managed to install it using the normal media creation tool from Microsoft. It didn't even tell me my CPU wasn't good enough, it just installed. I guess that PC Health Check thing is either out of date or is just there to discourage people from trying.
They eased up the requirement awhile ago since TPM isn't a default UEFI flag on a lot of systems that meet the requirement and it was causing confusion in the industry. I don't think they ever updated the PC Health App.
I still have the watermark on my screen telling me that while I am indeed runnning win 11, my CPU doesnt support it. I have yet to have any trouble....but the watermark in the bottom right of the screen is a little anmoying.
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
You can regedit that out I believe.
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I still have the watermark on my screen telling me that while I am indeed runnning win 11, my CPU doesnt support it. I have yet to have any trouble....but the watermark in the bottom right of the screen is a little anmoying.
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
5 years old CPU....I mean seriously...WTF am I thinking.... :-eyeroll-:
The Flying Penguin wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 15:21:
Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
Actually just managed to install it using the normal media creation tool from Microsoft. It didn't even tell me my CPU wasn't good enough, it just installed. I guess that PC Health Check thing is either out of date or is just there to discourage people from trying.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 14:26:HoSpanky wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:06:Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:00:
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever
Microsoft has rolled back the TPM requirement for most hardware that meets the rest of the required specs.
Mine has no TPM and Windows 11 installed just fine on it, it's never complained about it (B550 mobo / 3700x processor). How old is your motherboard/processor?
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Same thing I get with my i7-7700HQ. Sure, the processors only 5 years old, but it can't run Windows 11.
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Easiest way to install Windows 11 on any PC that doesn't meet the hardware requirements is to use Rufus:
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
https://www.wintips.org/create-a-windows-11-install-disk-for-unsupported-hardware-with-rufus/
I have an old Dell Intel Quad core Q8400 sitting on the shelf as a charity PC, with 4GB ram and a well used 128GB SSD, and it's running Win11 as fast as a greased pig.
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Kxmode wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:42:RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:Games purchased on EGS are also fully digital. Just an FYI...
You don't own your games.
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
Also the fact that EGS uses Chromium and will likely be following suit. Oops
Playing: Company of Heroes 3, Octopath Traveler 2, Dead Space Remake
Watching: Superstore, The Last of Us, Love Death & Robots
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Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 14:26:Your cpu base freq is 4GHz, how can you even sleep at night - much less even surf the web.
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Not to mention the cpu probably does not comply with required security enhancements.
You should be ashamed of yourself. /sarcasm
They really need to put whoever is in charge of AriZona iced tea in control of inflation...
HoSpanky wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:06:Hardline Mike wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 13:00:
As a Windows 10 user whose PC isn't allowed to run Windows 11 because of TPM versions or whatever
Microsoft has rolled back the TPM requirement for most hardware that meets the rest of the required specs.
Mine has no TPM and Windows 11 installed just fine on it, it's never complained about it (B550 mobo / 3700x processor). How old is your motherboard/processor?
This is what the WIndows 11 PC specs check app tells me
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:
You don’t own your games.
And? Tell me something I don't know that hasn't been in EULA's or related since the what 70's? *shrug*
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RedEye9 wrote on Mar 28, 2023, 12:11:Games purchased on EGS are also fully digital. Just an FYI...
You don't own your games.
System requirements for the Epic Games Launcher
OS: Windows 7 or higher, macOS 10.11 or higher
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