jdreyer wrote on Mar 26, 2023, 20:56:
FloodAnxiety wrote on Mar 24, 2023, 14:57:In China, unlike here, the government doesn't need warrants to access any Chinese company's data.
fujiJuice wrote on Mar 24, 2023, 12:31:So... you don't know anything about the circumstances but you are defending it anyways. Yikes. Thanks for your contribution?
Verno wrote on Mar 23, 2023, 15:37:
FloodAnxiety wrote on Mar 23, 2023, 14:59:
Some people are really in support of the government telling them what apps they can and cannot use eh? Or do they just not use it, and are in support of the government preventing other people from having the choice?
Of course, government regulates many things, that's part of its purpose. We cannot trust "the free market" when this app is controlled by a foreign government and can be weaponized against us in the form of theft, manipulation, blackmail or propaganda. It has societal implications and that is why government is involved.
You can learn a lot about someone by tracking their time and location.
You can learn a lot about the internal workings of a building or an entire organization by tracking the times and locations of those in it.
When they want to sell us something based on that information it is invasive and annoying but when a foreign adversary does it is a national security threat.
That is just one concern. It might not even be valid in these circumstances (I don't know what TikTok tracks), I am just saying that it should be at least scrutinized because of reasons we can't even imagine yet.
As jdreyer points out, we are playing by the precedent they established.
In China, unlike here, companies don't fight the government when asked to release individual's data because they'll be arrested and thrown in jail.
In China, the government for years has had complete access to TikTok's servers.
Social media data can be easily weaponized. China is our chief geopolitical rival.
It is simple. Pass the proper laws and enforce them on all social media platforms equally.
If there is still a concern, try educating the citizens of the concern and let them make the informed choice as to which LEGAL product they choose to use.
This whole "ban tiktok" craze is going to get that restrict act passed and then tiktok's ban will be the least of everyone's problems.
China's involvement in TikTok is massively overhyped due to typical political fearmongering.
So it is very simple. If there is a problem, identify the problem, and pass a law that addresses the problem and enforce that law on all social media platforms. It is really that simple. If you disagree, then please explain why the executive branch needs this crazy new power to ban anything for any reason at any time without even telling us why.