Star Citizen Adds Persistence

A new alpha patch arrived Saturday in Star Citizen, updating the space-based everything to all people game to version 3.18. As noted, this update is called "Lasting Memories," as it adds Persistent Entity Streaming (PES) promising "real, universal persistence." Word is: "With this new tech, all physical objects moved or placed by players will be dynamically tracked on the server they were moved on and remain in their new locations." So the good news is this is further progress towards the game's ambitions. The bad news is familiar, and also relates to persistence. The crowdfunded game is now on year 11 of what was originally planned as a two-year development cycle and it's not in beta yet. Here's the Lasting Legacies Trailer and here's more:
Cloud Imperium Games (CIG) today announced the release of the Star Citizen – Alpha 3.18: Lasting Legacies update. Available now, Lasting Legacies marks a giant technical leap forward on Star Citizen’s journey to deliver real, universal persistence with the addition of Persistent Entity Streaming (PES). With this new tech, all physical objects moved or placed by players will be dynamically tracked on the server they were moved on and remain in their new locations. Players can now leave their mark for other players to find or encounter the aftermath of other players’ actions when they log in, creating one of the most immersive and “lived-in” experiences ever seen in games. PES represents the largest significant technical update in the game’s history and is a critical addition in laying the foundation for full in-game persistence and Server Meshing that will unlock a new level of immersion in the ‘verse.
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Mar 13, 2023, 19:45
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Kxmode wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 19:11:
Jivaro wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 19:00:
11 years ago I bought a 39 dollar bounty hunter kickstarted deal. wow
At this point, you could pick up Everspace 2 and be happy with its similar Wing Commander vibe.
Yup, I've played a bit of it and it's really quite fun and *GASP* it actually works well with a joystick!
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 Kxmode
 
Jivaro wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 19:00:
11 years ago I bought a 39 dollar bounty hunter kickstarted deal. wow
At this point, you could pick up Everspace 2 and be happy with its similar Wing Commander vibe.
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Mar 13, 2023, 19:00
 Jivaro
 
11 years ago I bought a 39 dollar bounty hunter kickstarted deal. wow
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Kxmode wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 15:00:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:20:
YOU ARE SUMMONED!
You need to say his name three times.

DEREK SMART! 💰

Okay, now it's official.

I did do the final summation...in blood red. It's above the call to summons.
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Mar 13, 2023, 17:55
 
This game looks so cool, too bad ill probably die of old age before it's ever finished.
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Wilhuf wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 17:20:
Have they fixed the elevators yet?
Have they fixed the throttle axis support errors yet?
Chris:
1. Adding new stretch goal "Fixing elevators"
2. Adding new stretch goal "Fixing throttle axis support"
3. Asking for another $10 million to start two new development studios working on the fixes but then making them work on completely new stuff instead
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Have they fixed the elevators yet?
Have they fixed the throttle axis support errors yet?
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Mar 13, 2023, 16:36
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It's persistently late...
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Mar 13, 2023, 16:01
 
Strap Citizen, a decade later still "... laying the foundation ... ".

And thousands of special prospective gamers seeing nothing to talk bad about Shame
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Mar 13, 2023, 15:36
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jdreyer wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 15:10:
That's the tragedy Tim. There's infinite potential here, but the game is a buggy mess that has been in alpha for eight years and is still nowhere close to being finished. Instead of doing Everything Everywhere All at Once, they should have taken an iterative approach, solidifying some base mechanics and content, and then adding on/improving over time. My hands will be twisted into arthritic stumps by the time this game is finished, and I'll be unable to play it.

Realistically it cannot be finished due to scope creep and changing dev tech often requiring major reboots of systems and tools. The scope of this is too vast, there's a reason no sane company would take on something half this complex. What we will get is a half baked game, broken or shallow in most respects to avoid lawsuits. Or they will pare it way back and what we'll get isn't what was promised. I think most people would be fine with just getting Squadron 42.

It's been an interesting moon shot and conversation starter on forums but even a huge publisher with several satellite studios couldn't hope to finish something like this so I have little hope of receiving anything meaningful.
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Oh, persistence already? Wow. I'm impressed at the lightspeed progress this game has been making in recent years. It's insane how CIG have managed to put the pedal to the metal and how they are *this* close to delivering upon every single promise from the crowdfunding campaign now.
I'm sure they are also about to put the finishing touches on my Vice Admiral LTI physical box package. As far as I have heard, the only holdup is that they can not quite decide on the gift wrap paper style yet. But soon... SOON all my dreams will come true. Until then let me see where my credit card is so I can support my favorite game with some much needed fresh cash. They deserve a few hundred bucks more for this epochal breakthrough. Persistence may be a small step for CIG but it is a giant leap for mankind. This is the mother of all milestones. Mark my words.
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jdreyer wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 15:10:
Timmeh wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:47:
I tried the game recently when they had a free thing. Its mega nerd detailed but honestly really impressive.

I dont think it deserves any of the negative comments.
That's the tragedy Tim. There's infinite potential here, but the game is a buggy mess that has been in alpha for eight years and is still nowhere close to being finished.
So far it looks like it will easily dethrone DNF as the longest delayed high-profile title.
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Timmeh wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:47:
I tried the game recently when they had a free thing. Its mega nerd detailed but honestly really impressive.

I dont think it deserves any of the negative comments.
That's the tragedy Tim. There's infinite potential here, but the game is a buggy mess that has been in alpha for eight years and is still nowhere close to being finished. Instead of doing Everything Everywhere All at Once, they should have taken an iterative approach, solidifying some base mechanics and content, and then adding on/improving over time. My hands will be twisted into arthritic stumps by the time this game is finished, and I'll be unable to play it.
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 Kxmode
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 15:01:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:20:
DEREK SMART!!!!!

YOU ARE SUMMONED!
Three shall be the count, and the count shall be three.

Derek Smart!
I think we broke the summons.
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:20:
DEREK SMART!!!!!

YOU ARE SUMMONED!
Three shall be the count, and the count shall be three.

Derek Smart!

EDIT: Ninja'd by KX. 😅
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 13, 2023, 14:20:
YOU ARE SUMMONED!
You need to say his name three times.

DEREK SMART! 💰

Okay, now it's official.
"Listen, Peter... with great horsepower comes... the sickest drifts..." - source
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I tried the game recently when they had a free thing. Its mega nerd detailed but honestly really impressive.

I dont think it deserves any of the negative comments.
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ᵏᵉʳᵉᵈ ᵗʳᵃᵐˢ
That should cancel out at least two of the summonings.
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Mar 13, 2023, 14:20
 
DEREK SMART!!!!!

YOU ARE SUMMONED!
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

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Derek Smart

Sorta funny that I went googling yesterday to see what happened with the whole Derek putting money into escrow to investigate RSI/CIG and couldn't come up with much. Anyone have any better Google-Fu™ success?
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