Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 4, 2023, 02:39:

Jivaro wrote on Mar 4, 2023, 01:04:
Me personally, I like a little build up before you blast my ass ...

So, flowers and dinner first?

Custom armor and a never ending Crimson Flask please.

jacobvandy wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 18:12:

HoSpanky wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 18:04:

jacobvandy wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 15:20:

Argonius the 3rd wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 14:56:
It feels grindy, furthermore leveling up is incredibly slow. Started Wo Long and after 30' going through a linear area, I was confronted with a boss fight, and it's one of those bosses that will kill you after 2 hits whereas 2 of my hits do 0.1% damage.

Sounds like the first boss of every Soulslike ever. Call him 'The Humbler.'

And that, right there, is why I avoid "soulslike" games. I absolutely do not have the time to play the same fight 60 times just to learn some patterns that are immediately useless upon actually completing it.

Well, I've played a lot of them and could probably count on one hand the number of bosses that are anywhere near *that* brutal and complex. Most of them telegraph attacks in the same way any other bosses do, you should have some kind of universal dodge/block response as a player of action games in general. But The Humbler's job is merely to invoke despair, you aren't meant to beat him the first time you meet.

This is different in that you do have to beat this boss to progress in the game and unlike eg. the Asylum Demon in Dark Souls, you're not supposed to just run past him, get some better stuff and then return to beat him up. He's literally the final part of the level and the game expects you to beat him with what you've collected and learned during the level.

Jivaro wrote on Mar 4, 2023, 01:04:
Me personally, I like a little build up before you blast my ass ...

So, flowers and dinner first?

There are game developers who strongly believes that the first boss should kick your ass and send a message about how the game is going to go. Just give you that "Hello there muthafucka" slap across the face that hits like ice water and feels like depression.

Me personally, I like a little build up before you blast my ass into feeling as incompetent as a T-Rex trying to be a professional bowler. Anyway, I have a love/hate realtionship with these games....so I need to wait for a sale.

I'm loving it so far. My demo gamesave pulled into the full version with all equipment and qi intact. I ended up going back to that first level and trying that first stupid ass boss fight. What I can say, is make sure you have found all the battle-flag dealies on the battlefield before trying your hand at the boss (there are two rows of numbers on the top-right of the screen that tell you how many of each flag you have found.

Then make sure you have practiced the whole deflect mechanic (side note: I found that it helped me to also hold the block button down even while deflecting) The first part of the boss fight can sometimes turn into a quick pattern of block his first attack -> deflect his second -> then retaliate with X, X, X Y (for anyone using an Xbox controller on their PC). This should pretty quickly get him into a qi-depleted state where you are given the signal to do a powerful Y spirit attack.

The second half of the boss fight is a little more difficult, but I generally try to attack a few times and then wait for the red unblockable attack from the boss. If you can deflect it, you can go to town on him. A few of these and he should be at half health. At this point, your partner should prompt you to launch your Divine Beast attack...ending the fight on a cutscene.

Note: maybe stick the spoken language on English for this fight so you can hear your partner yell to launch your Divine Beast. The first few times I had it in spoken Japanese and missed the subtitle at the bottom in the middle of the action.

The first boss was by far the hardest for me.

HoSpanky wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 18:04:

jacobvandy wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 15:20:

Argonius the 3rd wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 14:56:
It feels grindy, furthermore leveling up is incredibly slow. Started Wo Long and after 30' going through a linear area, I was confronted with a boss fight, and it's one of those bosses that will kill you after 2 hits whereas 2 of my hits do 0.1% damage.

Sounds like the first boss of every Soulslike ever. Call him 'The Humbler.'

And that, right there, is why I avoid "soulslike" games. I absolutely do not have the time to play the same fight 60 times just to learn some patterns that are immediately useless upon actually completing it.

Well, I've played a lot of them and could probably count on one hand the number of bosses that are anywhere near *that* brutal and complex. Most of them telegraph attacks in the same way any other bosses do, you should have some kind of universal dodge/block response as a player of action games in general. But The Humbler's job is merely to invoke despair, you aren't meant to beat him the first time you meet.

jacobvandy wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 15:20:

Argonius the 3rd wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 14:56:
It feels grindy, furthermore leveling up is incredibly slow. Started Wo Long and after 30' going through a linear area, I was confronted with a boss fight, and it's one of those bosses that will kill you after 2 hits whereas 2 of my hits do 0.1% damage.

Sounds like the first boss of every Soulslike ever. Call him 'The Humbler.'

And that, right there, is why I avoid "soulslike" games. I absolutely do not have the time to play the same fight 60 times just to learn some patterns that are immediately useless upon actually completing it.

Argonius the 3rd wrote on Mar 3, 2023, 14:56:
It feels grindy, furthermore leveling up is incredibly slow. Started Wo Long and after 30' going through a linear area, I was confronted with a boss fight, and it's one of those bosses that will kill you after 2 hits whereas 2 of my hits do 0.1% damage.

Sounds like the first boss of every Soulslike ever. Call him 'The Humbler.'

It feels grindy, furthermore leveling up is incredibly slow. Started Wo Long and after 30' going through a linear area, I was confronted with a boss fight, and it's one of those bosses that will kill you after 2 hits whereas 2 of my hits do 0.1% damage.

According to Steam forums it's a pretty shit port and a controller is almost mandatory.