Hey, some pepper in the stew makes it more savoury

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2023, 02:00:
Hi Quinn !
Hahaha, your posts are always fun to read, agree or not.

You are right, was doubtful when posting but seemed appropriate, and if it must be I'm sure the mods will be right in their assessment.

Sending you love man !

Hehe thanks! I was this 🤏 close to announcing my permanent goodbyes yesterday because I don't agree with the ridiculous policing going on here -- sure, it's relatively lenient here, but relativity can kiss my ass atm. The only saving grace was that Blue at least removed some of the other bullshit comments that weren't mine as well, before locking a particular thread I referred to in my last comment to you about irrelevance of opinions.

Instead of leaving I've instead decided to just call out the bullshit more. ✌️🤪

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2023, 00:44:
Ah yes, thought I had seen this repeatedly, no options for elucidating or agreements.

Just the usual "prove I'm the winner by relentlessly demeaning anything said" high school bully put down tactics.

Have fun

Yet you're the one putting forth two choices as the only ones that are valid. And when I point out how ridiculous and flawed that is, it's somehow "bullying" and "demeaning". Not to mention that you and others here are espousing rhetoric that supports blaming an entire country's populace and bullying them into submission.

Absolutely hypocritical & hilarious. The good ol' two for one deal.

Hi Quinn !
Hahaha, your posts are always fun to read, agree or not.

You are right, was doubtful when posting but seemed appropriate, and if it must be I'm sure the mods will be right in their assessment.

Sending you love man !

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2023, 00:44:
Ah yes, thought I had seen this repeatedly, no options for elucidating or agreements.

Just the usual "prove I'm the winner by relentlessly demeaning anything said" high school bully put down tactics.

Have fun

I think he learned it from two others on here. Not you.

Surprised you guys could continue this without comments removed or thread locked. After all, the subject is how Ukraine thinks about Russia. Your own opinions are irrelevant!

Ah yes, thought I had seen this repeatedly, no options for elucidating or agreements.

Just the usual "prove I'm the winner by relentlessly demeaning anything said" high school bully put down tactics.

Have fun

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 27, 2023, 18:38:
Were the WW2 german people innocently duped by the propaganda or chauvinistically cheering the slaughter till it reversed ? A mix, surely ?

Interestingly, you aren't looking for a dialogue at all:
talking in the 3rd person and your main argument seems to be a superior understanding.
Sorry if you feel bitter and alone in a sea of dumbness.

Anecdotic: I live in Argentina and have breathed corruption for 67 years

Wait, I thought they either deserved it, or they are the same as their rulers?

But now they can actually be duped? Or they're fully complicit in it via a government they can't control?

Fascinating, it's almost like there's no consistency in your assertions at all...

Were the WW2 german people innocently duped by the propaganda or chauvinistically cheering the slaughter till it reversed ? A mix, surely ?

Interestingly, you aren't looking for a dialogue at all:
talking in the 3rd person and your main argument seems to be a superior understanding.
Sorry if you feel bitter and alone in a sea of dumbness.

Anecdotic: I live in Argentina and have breathed corruption for 67 years

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 27, 2023, 06:56:
Razumen,
when the quality of the leaders is consistently inhuman over centuries, shouldn't you choose one of these?:

The peoples have the governments they deserve.
or
The people have the rulers that resemble them.

Nice false binary, looks like I found someone else that doesn't understand how corrupt governments work.

Razumen,
when the quality of the leaders is consistently inhuman over centuries, shouldn't you choose one of these?:

The peoples have the governments they deserve.
or
The people have the rulers that resemble them.

WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 22:24:

Acleacius wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:51:

PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:37:

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 20:09:
I thought we were supposed to buy it to support the developers.

I dunno, I was thinking of claiming the game is mine by right and annexing it.

Without the murder, rape and destruction? How is this possible, don't you know how things work in mother russia today?

So true Acleacius, and things always worked so.

Mother russia's wretched people has been historically oppressed, carelessly starved, forcibly relocated, and outright murdered by the millions. And they seem to like it.

They just export their misery for the glory of their leader class.

"Yes, the suffering of the oppressed lower class is *flips over today's cure card* totally their won fault!"

Wow, what an bold and brave statement.🙄

JTW wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 22:01:

The Flying Penguin wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 15:11:
I think everyone just needs to make up their own mind. Not sure we should be banning games just because they're made by citizens of a country who's ruler is a justifiable pariah.

Applying pressure to the citizens of a country whose government is awful is the #1 way of combating that sort of problem. It's the first and foremost tool in the diplomatic playbook for forcing change without bloodshed.

The embargos and applying pressure is exactly the way, because it does at least 2 things: 1.) It decreases the quality of life of the people, which is the first step to a proper revolt and 2.) The Russian government will have little to no control over how Russia changes because of external pressure, which is perfect for break through the gears of lies and deceit that is their propaganda machine.

The person who said Russia can still be referenced as a 'commie' state still is really bad at understanding government types aren't they? The Cold war is over, what Russia is now is far from a communist regime. Its a Authoritarian Oligarchy with fake elections and everything to let the populace still think they have any power over government.

The Flying Penguin wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 15:11:
I think everyone just needs to make up their own mind. Not sure we should be banning games just because they're made by citizens of a country who's ruler is a justifiable pariah.

Applying pressure to the citizens of a country whose government is awful is the #1 way of combating that sort of problem. It's the first and foremost tool in the diplomatic playbook for forcing change without bloodshed.

Cancel culture bad herp derp. Active genocide good/irrelevant? Is this where we at?

I'm sure theatres used these arguments to show Nazi propaganda in london during WW2. The greatest generation had no time for the woke mind virus!

I mean this seems a little more subtle than that but I'm not going to argue with the people actively getting ethnicly cleanesed. Ban away.

I can't believe Trump did this!

Kosumo wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 14:03:
"Untill we see the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, I have to believe it has copies of both Atomic Heart and Hogwarts Legacy on it and that makes his father a bad man!" - Tucker Kosumo

Mind Blown!

Momodious wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 13:34:
Any link I give you would not be credible by your standards. I'm not supporting Russia. I didn't call anyone racist. It's their American exceptionalism that is bullshit.

EDIT: And if you want to see what NATO's been up to for decades, watch "A Very Heavy Agenda" by Robbie Martin on Vimeo.

I disagree with American Exceptionalism too, we didn't invent it nor do we always get it correct.
But the big problem just like in Russia and most places it's the leaders, not the people.
As Goering said at Nuremberg ..

the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

In the US it's Corporate Greed, that rue's the day.
The one thing they all have in common is, The Ego of Man.

Well, I'll post a link, no idea if it's good enough for anyone but it is accurate.
Noam Chomsky on American Exceptionalism

I think everyone just needs to make up their own mind. Not sure we should be banning games just because they're made by citizens of a country who's ruler is a justifiable pariah.

I can see both sides here, and I am undecided myself. It is just a game, but yes taxes will go to the Russian government. However, this is a drop in the bucket compared to oil profits, and we still have western aligned allies buying their oil. Maybe we should be doing more about that.

If you're uncomfortable with it, don't buy the game.

But on the other hand, IT'S A GAME. I have played countless war games where I have slaughtered countless Russians, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, soldiers from vaguely renamed Soviet satellite states, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, and even Americans, Norwegians, Brits, French etal in computer games. I'm not particularly tormented about it.

Do what you feel is right in your heart.

I probably won't consider this game myself, until maybe after the war is over.

'nuff said

Prez wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 14:10:
All joking aside, I would love to go see Moscow just for the architecture alone. Don't know if I can be trusted drinking vodka though.

Baltika No. 3? A nice Russian beer.