Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack

The Government of Ukraine plans to petition Valve, Microsoft, and Sony to remove Atomic Heart from digital stores in Ukraine, and will ask platform holders to consider “limiting distribution” of the game in other countries. At heart of the matter are the new first-person shooter's Russian roots. There are allegations that sales of the game directly benefit the Russian government and that the game is possibly being used to harvest user data. Ukrainian tech website Dev.au first reported on this, and PCGamesN has a statement in English directly from the Ukraine government:
“Regarding the situation with the release of the game Atomic Heart, which has Russian roots and romanticises communist ideology and the Soviet Union, The Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine will send an official letter to Sony, Microsoft, and Valve requesting a ban on selling digital versions of this game in Ukraine,” says Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation, Alex Bornyakov.

“We also urge limiting the distribution of this game in other countries due to its toxicity, potential data collection of users, and the potential use of money raised from game purchases to conduct a war against Ukraine.”

“According to media reports, the game’s development was funded by Russian enterprises,” the statement continues. “Therefore, we call for all users worldwide to avoid this game. We also want to emphasise that the game developers have not publicly condemned the Putin regime and the bloody war that Russia has unleashed against Ukraine.”
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Feb 23, 2023, 04:41
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 23, 2023, 04:41
Feb 23, 2023, 04:41
 
No offence to Ukraine, but they don't get to pick what game I want to spend my money on. They can politely go fudge themselves. I'm glad Steam doesn't remove games because some special interest groups starts whining.
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Feb 23, 2023, 04:25
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 23, 2023, 04:25
Feb 23, 2023, 04:25
 
Interestingly they may have 1 huge point there, GEM Capital (investment firm) is run by a poodle who is on the international sanctions list, you are not legally allowed to do business with him at all as Western company. But they target the wrong entities. Focus Entertainment (Yes, the scumbags who scammed the sherlock developers) is the one they should target, because all money goes to publisher first. And does France not have laws against violating sanctions?

I don't think Steam pays out a single cent to "developers" directly unless you know, they self-publish. So yah, gonna be wild. Hopefully the one who should be gotten gets got here, Focus Entertainment

But you know what the kicker is? Owlcat - is also financed by GEM
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Feb 23, 2023, 02:53
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Feb 23, 2023, 02:53
 
Riahderymnmaddog wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 01:25:
uhhh I am all for killing commies with their boots on, but last i checked Russia was a federal democratic or some shit, Personally I will date a hot Ukrainian (Slavic I think?) woman and play this game because I don't have a dog in this fight, until fucking Brandon lands a V-22 Osprey in my back yard, rolls out on a quad equipped with a blue force tracker, and says Riahderymnmaddog, we really need you on this one, then my only answer will be "Sum of a bitch, I'm in"

Lol wut?
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Feb 23, 2023, 01:59
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 23, 2023, 01:59
Feb 23, 2023, 01:59
 
Wait wait wait... the game has socialism undertones but thats part of the story, The whole thing is a big WHAT IF. You simply cannot deny entertainment the idea of envisioning something even it is something you don't like.

Likewise.. Where is proof that this is money going to the Russian gov? I see more text on dismissing the content and less text on backing up the mouth.
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 23, 2023, 01:25
Feb 23, 2023, 01:25
 
uhhh I am all for killing commies with their boots on, but last i checked Russia was a federal democratic or some shit, Personally I will date a hot Ukrainian (Slavic I think?) woman and play this game because I don't have a dog in this fight, until fucking Brandon lands a V-22 Osprey in my back yard, rolls out on a quad equipped with a blue force tracker, and says Riahderymnmaddog, we really need you on this one, then my only answer will be "Sum of a bitch, I'm in"
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Feb 23, 2023, 01:09
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 23, 2023, 01:09
Feb 23, 2023, 01:09
 
If they make at best 5 million dollars, that pays for an hour or so for their entire operation. While Russia has illegally invaded Ukraine, let’s keep in mind the high level of corruption in the Ukrainian government for many years: this has been highly documented on national news many times. The Ukraine needs to win this war, but one eye should be kept on them at all times.
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Feb 23, 2023, 00:19
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sfhand wrote on Feb 23, 2023, 00:10:
Not me, however, when Iraq was unfolding I was certain that my fellow citizens were too smart to fall for the BS (the UN presentation evidence of Iraqi chemical warfare mobile labs was rendered models rather than actual photographs of said units) after having gone through Vietnam. Apparently we are all still hanging out in Plato's cave...
well, to make things better we are now perfecting AI tools that will allow massive amounts of evidence to be faked in a convincing way. yay technology!
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Feb 23, 2023, 00:10
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Feb 23, 2023, 00:10
 
One of the reasons this old man games is to forget about all the BS in the world, if only for a few hours. No one in this thread has any way of really knowing what is happening on the other side of the globe, much less in the US (if you are in the US) with any certainty. There is no way to get news that is trustworthy, none at all, even our understanding of history is being changed to suit today's political agendas. When faced with the realities of war we all agree war is terrible, yet somehow 66% of the American public cheered on Shock and Awe in Iraq. Not me, however, when Iraq was unfolding I was certain that my fellow citizens were too smart to fall for the BS (the UN presentation evidence of Iraqi chemical warfare mobile labs was rendered models rather than actual photographs of said units) after having gone through Vietnam. Apparently we are all still hanging out in Plato's cave...
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Feb 22, 2023, 23:54
 
Task wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 23:41:
Granted we'll probably be incinerated.

Well, you might be.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

“Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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Feb 22, 2023, 23:41
 
Acleacius wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 23:02:
Looking forward to a free Ukraine with EU and Nato memberships! Lighter

I hope you're ready to put your money where your mouth is when a world war kicks off. Granted we'll probably be incinerated.
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Feb 22, 2023, 23:02
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 22:24:
Acleacius wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:51:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:37:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 20:09:
I thought we were supposed to buy it to support the developers.
I dunno, I was thinking of claiming the game is mine by right and annexing it.
Without the murder, rape and destruction? How is this possible, don't you know how things work in mother russia today?
So true Acleacius, and things always worked so.

Mother russia's wretched people has been historically oppressed, carelessly starved, forcibly relocated, and outright murdered by the millions. And they seem to like it.

They just export their misery for the glory of their leader class.
Just the Brain Drain alone, is going to cripple them for decades.
Here's hoping when the dust settles, putin and the hardliners are taken off the board.

Looking forward to a free Ukraine with EU and Nato memberships! Lighter
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:54
 
Remember that at the beginning of the war, most game publishers stopped selling products in Russia and Belarus. Isn't this just the flip side of that? Typically Ukraine has been pretty good about not just calling shit out for shits and giggles. I'm inclined to believe they have valid concerns.
If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Slava Ukraini!
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:47
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Jivaro wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 22:29:
Well that is unfortunate. This was on my wishlist for when it dropped to a reasonable price.
Hi Jivaro !
I suggest trying the surprise naval attack.
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:29
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:29
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Well that is unfortunate. This was on my wishlist for when it dropped to a reasonable price.
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:24
 
Acleacius wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:51:
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:37:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 20:09:
I thought we were supposed to buy it to support the developers.
I dunno, I was thinking of claiming the game is mine by right and annexing it.
Without the murder, rape and destruction? How is this possible, don't you know how things work in mother russia today?
So true Acleacius, and things always worked so.

Mother russia's wretched people has been historically oppressed, carelessly starved, forcibly relocated, and outright murdered by the millions. And they seem to like it.

They just export their misery for the glory of their leader class.
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Feb 22, 2023, 22:05
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Re: Ukraine's Atomic Heart Attack Feb 22, 2023, 22:05
Feb 22, 2023, 22:05
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Supporting developers is great. Let's pretend that these are 100% zero-bad-intent developers. If they're still a Russian company (and they are, with offices in Moscow and St. Petersburg), then they are taxed, heavily, by the Russian government. That isn't a maybe. That is simple truth. A meaningful portion of any money spent on this game will, absolutely, no question, end up in the coffers of the Russian government.

Buying the game would mean that my money may well go to buying a bullet fired at Ukrainian soldiers, or to execute a Ukrainian civilian.

And even one such bullet resulting from my decision is too many. Even the possibility isn't OK with me. It isn't like there's nothing else I can be playing, not given the cost of playing this one.

And that's all assuming that they are, as I said, zero-bad-intent. The evidence suggests that they aren't. And yeah, they're headquartered in Cyprus, not Russia. The tiny island of Cyprus isn't where people go to escape Russia. It is the place Russian companies legally move their headquarters to bypass anti-Russian sanctions.
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Feb 22, 2023, 21:51
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 21:37:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 20:09:
I thought we were supposed to buy it to support the developers.

I dunno, I was thinking of claiming the game is mine by right and annexing it.
Without the murder, rape, kidnapping and destruction? How is this possible, don't you know how things work in mother russia today?

This comment was edited on Feb 22, 2023, 22:43.
Scorpio Slasher: ... What about you boy, what do hate?
Marcus: ... Bullies. Tiny d*ck egotists who hurt people for no reason, make people lock their doors at night. People who make general existence worse, people like you.
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WebSoldier wrote on Feb 22, 2023, 20:43:
"How Dare you have Fun if Russia developed the game!" -Greta Thunberg
"Me and Putin hangout, pumping each other for one liners and playing atomic heart while, our kidnapped victims sex traffic get routed!" -andrew (tiny balls) tate
Scorpio Slasher: ... What about you boy, what do hate?
Marcus: ... Bullies. Tiny d*ck egotists who hurt people for no reason, make people lock their doors at night. People who make general existence worse, people like you.
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