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jdreyer wrote on Jan 28, 2023, 15:27:
GaianElite wrote on Jan 28, 2023, 00:19:
Off the net, busy with life stuff.
How dare you.
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GaianElite wrote on Jan 28, 2023, 00:19:
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How dare you.
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Bodolza wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 16:15:
Even if I don't agree with her view, I'm not a middle-aged woman that's lived and experienced what she has, so I also don't feel like I'm in the position to say whatever she is personally feeling is "wrong". The lack of empathy on the part of so-called "liberals" is sometimes astounding.

Isn't that what she is doing towards transgender people? Empathy is a two way street.

If you have a megaphone and you choose to speak into it don't be surprised or upset if some people speak back in unison because they don't have a megaphone but they want to be heard.

The amount of individuals these days that question "Why can't I say I dislike certain people without certain people saying they dislike me!" is astonishing and shows the lack of self awareness and emotional intelligence of a great many people.
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GaianElite wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 18:36:
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RedEye9 wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 15:03:
A Complete Breakdown of the J.K. Rowling Transgender-Comments Controversy

From that article, I personally agree with Helena Bonham Carter's view: “I think she has been hounded. It’s been taken to the extreme, the judgmentalism of people. She’s allowed her opinion, particularly if she’s suffered abuse. Everybody carries their own history of trauma and forms their opinions from that trauma, and you have to respect where people come from and their pain. You don’t all have to agree on everything—that would be insane and boring. She’s not meaning it aggressively, she’s just saying something out of her own experience.”

Even if I don't agree with her view, I'm not a middle-aged woman that's lived and experienced what she has, so I also don't feel like I'm in the position to say whatever she is personally feeling is "wrong". The lack of empathy on the part of so-called "liberals" is sometimes astounding.
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A Complete Breakdown of the J.K. Rowling Transgender-Comments Controversy
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Beamer wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 02:41:
The level of concern trolling is off the charts.

When people can't even admit that Rowling made some really intentionally offensive and overstated tweets, it probably isn't worth engaging with them over how many men would willingly have their penis removed, or at least be on heavy hormonal treatment, in order to molest women in bathrooms

"Strawman" is a term that gets thrown around a little too much online ( kind of like "concern trolling" and "dog whistle" ) but Jesus Fucking Christ is that one hell of a strawman you've built there, Beamer! How tall is that thing? Two stories? Big enough you could put an actual person in there and use it for the ending of The Wicker Man.

"Men having their penis removed?" Who the fuck said anything about that? I know I didn't, and I don't remember anyone else doing so in this thread either. It wasn't in the BBC article I linked to about the convicted rapist who declared himself a woman so he could get sent to a woman's prison. Nothing in that article about anyone having their penis removed. Which leads me to conclude that ... you just fucking made it up. Just pulled it out of thin air. Invented the nonsense argument you wish you were going up against, instead of the one you actually have to deal with.

Now, to be fair, I can see why you would do that. If I were in your position, I might want to make up a strawman too. Nothing but facts in that BBC piece, and facts can be hard to get around. Hard to argue with. But resorting to a strawman is a bit like that old story about the guy helping his friend look for a pair of lost keys under a streetlight. The first guy says: "You sure you lost your keys here?" and his friend goes: "No, I lost them farther down the block. But the light is better here."

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The level of concern trolling is off the charts.

When people can't even admit that Rowling made some really intentionally offensive and overstated tweets, it probably isn't worth engaging with them over how many men would willingly have their penis removed, or at least be on heavy hormonal treatment, in order to molest women in bathrooms
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Razumen wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:53:
Activists like this rarely have an impact on sales in terms of units sold - they're all bark and rely on causing "controversy" to make a scene. Even the products they say they support don't actually sell well when they have to rely on them alone.

I can guarantee that the average Harry Potter fan doesn't care one iota and probably has already preordered the game. I myself know a few people that have already (Not really into HP myself).

Me neither. Nothing against it, it just wasn't my thing. I did like The Dark is Rising series as a kid though, which is much older and I think clearly inspired Rowling's work.

I think you're right about the activists not having much of an impact on sales. They have a megaphone, but are still relatively small in numbers. Rowling's adult mystery novels regularly top the best sellers list, despite them being targeted too (haven't read them either.)
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Sepharo wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:54:
You've probably heard of it. It's NeoGAF reformed/rebranded under new management.

Oh. Yeah, I have heard of NeoGAF. Thanks for the explanation.
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SMITE wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:44:
Razumen wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:37:
Resetera is the site that won't even allow people with free email accounts to join, it's pretty much worse than Reddit in terms of being a useless echo chamber.

I remember when they were throwing fits over a videogame character being physically attractive.

I'd never heard of or visited the site and now that they've banned all discussion of the new Harry Potter game, I won't bother. I am really curious to see if the trans activists and their allies can hurt sales of the game though. While they have a lot of pull in the world of video game journalism, there are still a lot of Potter fans who don't buy into the activist mindset, even if they're scared to say so publicly.

You've probably heard of it. It's NeoGAF reformed/rebranded under new management.
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SMITE wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:38:
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So were they prosecuted for the rapes in prison?
Like if that's going on, maybe this person needs to be isolated or in solitary confinement.

No, he sexually assaulted his two victims on the outside, was arrested and put on trial, and then, while on trial, when it was obvious he was likely to be convicted and after the Scottish government passed the Self-ID law--he suddenly announced that he had become a woman. From the coverage I've seen, there is no evidence that he had ever claimed a trans identity prior to being tried for sexual assault. Prison officials have said that he will temporarily be held separate from the main female population while they try to figure out how to deal with him, and are quite aware of all the publicity they're getting in this instance.

For the record, this isn't just happening in Scotland. California, among other U.S. states, is now housing men who identify as women in female prisons, regardless of any history of sexual assault.

I guess I don't really care if a rapist goes to women's, men's, or mooninite prison.
And if they rape in prison, then they should be charged and I guess separated or whatever the procedure is for someone who does that.

Gay men aren't kept out of male prisons when they've raped other men, and the same is true for women.
Not sure why it's a big deal if a transgender rapist goes to women's prison or men's prison. They'll be a minority in either.
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SMITE wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:44:
Razumen wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:37:
Resetera is the site that won't even allow people with free email accounts to join, it's pretty much worse than Reddit in terms of being a useless echo chamber.

I remember when they were throwing fits over a videogame character being physically attractive.

I'd never heard of or visited the site and now that they've banned all discussion of the new Harry Potter game, I won't bother. I am really curious to see if the trans activists and their allies can hurt sales of the game though. While they have a lot of pull in the world of video game journalism, there are still a lot of Potter fans who don't buy into the activist mindset, even if they're scared to say so publicly.
Activists like this rarely have an impact on sales in terms of units sold - they're all bark and rely on causing "controversy" to make a scene. Even the products they say they support don't actually sell well when they have to rely on them alone.

I can guarantee that the average Harry Potter fan doesn't care one iota and probably has already preordered the game. I myself know a few people that have already (Not really into HP myself).
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Razumen wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:37:
Resetera is the site that won't even allow people with free email accounts to join, it's pretty much worse than Reddit in terms of being a useless echo chamber.

I remember when they were throwing fits over a videogame character being physically attractive.

I'd never heard of or visited the site and now that they've banned all discussion of the new Harry Potter game, I won't bother. I am really curious to see if the trans activists and their allies can hurt sales of the game though. While they have a lot of pull in the world of video game journalism, there are still a lot of Potter fans who don't buy into the activist mindset, even if they're scared to say so publicly.
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Sepharo wrote on Jan 25, 2023, 01:26:
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So were they prosecuted for the rapes in prison?
Like if that's going on, maybe this person needs to be isolated or in solitary confinement.

No, he sexually assaulted his two victims on the outside, was arrested and put on trial, and then, while on trial, when it was obvious he was likely to be convicted and after the Scottish government passed the Self-ID law--he suddenly announced that he had become a woman. From the coverage I've seen, there is no evidence that he had ever claimed a trans identity prior to being tried for sexual assault. Prison officials have said that he will temporarily be held separate from the main female population while they try to figure out how to deal with him, and are quite aware of all the publicity they're getting in this instance.

For the record, this isn't just happening in Scotland. California, among other U.S. states, is now housing men who identify as women in female prisons, regardless of any history of sexual assault.
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