I use Steam Link on a PC to connect to another PC. It's great except for one very annoying problem where it randomly stops passing along all input (controller+KB+mouse) when the PC I'm connecting to is under heavy load. I have to disconnect and reconnect to get it working again. Not great in the middle of a game.

I tried Parsec awhile back and it was a mess. Poor UI and controller support.

I never bothered with NVIDIA's stuff as I don't want anything to do with GeForce Experience.

fujiJuice wrote on Dec 19, 2022, 09:13:

Slick wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 20:38:

Beamer wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:58:

Enahs wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:32:
Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

Because lots of people want to play on TVs in different rooms, or even on different floors, from their PCs. HDMI maxes out at 50 feet.

I run two optical HDMI cables at 75 and 150 ft. Works like a charm. The longer one is HDMI 2.1 also, does 10-bit 4k @ 120hz for the OLED upstairs. Normal copper-based HDMI tops out at far less than 50 ft. if you're running high bandwidth signals most copper cables degrade in less than 12 ft. I still remember trying to find an HDMI 2.0 cable that could run 4k/60hz with 4:4:4 chroma at 6ft that actually worked. Had to settle with a 3 ft. cable cause they'd all just make the TV wink out, this was back in like 2014.

In my old house I used an HDMI to ethernet adapter to send it across the house. I used a splitter to duplicate the HDMI stream so I could send it two different places, one to a monitor in my computer room and the other through the adapter across the house to my living room. Worked great. I don't think you will be able to do 10-bit 4k @ 120hz though doing that method.

Ethernet is amazing for reliability and run-distance, but yeah, the bandwidth surprisingly isn't there. Not only would you need Cat 8, but you'd also need 100gbps NICs/splitters. 4k 120hz 10-bit is a bit above 40Gbps I think. Maybe there's a 50Gbps option that I don't know of. Either way, it's gonna be expensive.

Slick wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 20:38:

Beamer wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:58:

Enahs wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:32:
Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

Because lots of people want to play on TVs in different rooms, or even on different floors, from their PCs. HDMI maxes out at 50 feet.

I run two optical HDMI cables at 75 and 150 ft. Works like a charm. The longer one is HDMI 2.1 also, does 10-bit 4k @ 120hz for the OLED upstairs. Normal copper-based HDMI tops out at far less than 50 ft. if you're running high bandwidth signals most copper cables degrade in less than 12 ft. I still remember trying to find an HDMI 2.0 cable that could run 4k/60hz with 4:4:4 chroma at 6ft that actually worked. Had to settle with a 3 ft. cable cause they'd all just make the TV wink out, this was back in like 2014.

In my old house I used an HDMI to ethernet adapter to send it across the house. I used a splitter to duplicate the HDMI stream so I could send it two different places, one to a monitor in my computer room and the other through the adapter across the house to my living room. Worked great. I don't think you will be able to do 10-bit 4k @ 120hz though doing that method.

All well and good except there is no Steam Link for fucking LG. I think the only way I can stream to my tv is with a Pi.

Beamer wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:58:

Enahs wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:32:
Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

Because lots of people want to play on TVs in different rooms, or even on different floors, from their PCs. HDMI maxes out at 50 feet.

I run two optical HDMI cables at 75 and 150 ft. Works like a charm. The longer one is HDMI 2.1 also, does 10-bit 4k @ 120hz for the OLED upstairs. Normal copper-based HDMI tops out at far less than 50 ft. if you're running high bandwidth signals most copper cables degrade in less than 12 ft. I still remember trying to find an HDMI 2.0 cable that could run 4k/60hz with 4:4:4 chroma at 6ft that actually worked. Had to settle with a 3 ft. cable cause they'd all just make the TV wink out, this was back in like 2014.

*edit, if anyone actually cares, the one thing I learned was that the $80-100 cables work just fine, I got the second most cheapo brand I could find. Some of them go for like $300-400 are are a waste of money IMO, unless you're wiring through drywall, then there are certain specs they're supposed to be built for. But it's optical, it ain't gonna catch fire. Cheap out and rock out.

Enahs wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:32:
Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

When has removing options ever been a good idea other then to increase profits or keep a thumb on you depending on if its a business or government.

Enahs wrote on Dec 18, 2022, 19:32:
Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

Because lots of people want to play on TVs in different rooms, or even on different floors, from their PCs. HDMI maxes out at 50 feet.

Am I the only one in the world that just plugs their PC into the screen with a high quality cable anymore? I am confused as to why we need all these streaming services?

WTF?! No... this is horrible. why? Steam Link is garbage compared to Moonlight. Pretty sad news

I don't believe Steam has 144Hz streaming either like moonshell does. only 120?