phinn wrote on Dec 7, 2022, 07:50:
Maybe this should have been released as an Early Access game so it would feel like it'll be improved a lot more.

He's been working on it for 20 years. Calling it Early Access at this point wouldn't give much hope for it ever being completed...

It needs a lot of work. There is really no charm to the visuals (RimWorld is similar but has it's own charm and style to visuals, this really doesn't) and the audio (sound effects, music) is quite poor. The core game is still as complex and interesting as ever. Maybe this should have been released as an Early Access game so it would feel like it'll be improved a lot more. Anyway I also hope it gets a lot of dev and community support because the potential is certainly there.

Tried playing the old version multiple times, only to get totally flummoxed and frustrated. Glad to see it has graduated from the throw-up angry fruit salad presentation.

Won't be pulling the trigger on this one, unless it builds up a solid Steam Community and Workshop with guides that are not obtuse arcane diarrhea written by life long enthusiasts.

I'll definitely get it. Have been waiting long enough. Just not right now. Luckily I got out of the habit to buy games just to have them immediately. I am really absorbed by Bannerlord right now, even more so than by its predecessors, I don't know why and there are other games in the backlog so I'll probably get this during a sale. But I will because this game is awesome and it's getting really good reviews (though I think these are mostly veteran players and the established playerbase, who love the game anyway - gotta wait for some newbies who will have a more realistic outlook about how this version really is).

Nate wrote on Dec 6, 2022, 23:52:
Refunded it. Couldn't deal with the jumpy dwarf/creature movement. Repetitive game sounds quickly got on my nerves. Also there was no feedback sounds on using the menus.

The brothers should really consider hiring another person to polish that movement animation and maybe a sound artist or two. But hey, it's their life's work!

Refunded it. Couldn't deal with the jumpy dwarf/creature movement. Repetitive game sounds quickly got on my nerves. Also there was no feedback sounds on using the menus.

Beamer wrote on Dec 6, 2022, 15:52:
Did you watch the video? The new graphics look pretty solid to me. Not 3D, but I've played 2D games with worse. I kind of love 2D games, but I'm not sure this is for me.

I did watch it. The graphics are passable. You can identify things. Reminds me of RimWorld, whose graphics I don't care for either. Listen, I'm not saying it is a bad game, just saying I have difficultly getting passed the graphics -- despite being someone who likes Minecraft and Cosmoteer, which certainly aren't known for their graphics. Is that illogical or make me a bad person? Maybe.

Unknown Soldier wrote on Dec 6, 2022, 18:10:
I got completely absorbed by this game back in the fall/winter of 2006. I remember it used to almost melt my poor laptop because it would just destroy the CPU. It will be quite a trip to come back to it and see how much has changed, graphics notwithstanding.

Still melting CPUs that's for sure

I got completely absorbed by this game back in the fall/winter of 2006. I remember it used to almost melt my poor laptop because it would just destroy the CPU. It will be quite a trip to come back to it and see how much has changed, graphics notwithstanding.

Love Rimworld. Have wanted to play DorfFort for years but I've been holding off on this release. And now that it released I'm underwater at work. sigh.

This looks like a game I could get lost in, or hate in the first 30 minutes. I think what is holding me back isn't the graphics, but the complete lack of animations. I can understand that it's a complex game, but is it THAT complex that they couldn't somehow figure out smooth movement for characters? I suppose it's simply replacing the ascii information with sprites, but oh boy, does that movement look terrible.

I bet that at some point somebody will come out with a mod that allows you to zoom down to fully animated 3-D characters and objects. And that will be the greatest thing ever

Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2022, 14:46:
I mean better graphics.

Did you watch the video? The new graphics look pretty solid to me. Not 3D, but I've played 2D games with worse. I kind of love 2D games, but I'm not sure this is for me.

I mean better graphics.

Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2022, 14:39:
I like to think I'm not a graphics snob. I played thousands of hours of vanilla Minecraft, more recently I have played a ton of Cosmoteer. But the lack of graphics here is a real mental block. I mean, I know graphics rarely are what make a game worth playing, so maybe I can gather up some drive and give it a whirl eventually, but I'll very much have to be in a "mood" for it...

Everything in this game now has graphics..or you mean better graphics? Well yeah, you always need to be in the mood for diz imo Game can be as complex as you like, and imo it's better first try to just yolo it.

I like to think I'm not a graphics snob. I played thousands of hours of vanilla Minecraft, more recently I have played a ton of Cosmoteer. But the lack of graphics here is a real mental block. I mean, I know graphics rarely are what make a game worth playing, so maybe I can gather up some drive and give it a whirl eventually, but I'll very much have to be in a "mood" for it...

I picked it up. At some point will have to tackle the incredible complexity of this game.

Looks interesting, I've only played RimWorld as a similar style game, I know this dates back much further for the ascii based version but this is great. Added to Steam wishlist will look into it more.

Purchased! Hundreds of hours into dwarf fortress they can get my support.