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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 19:14
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 19:14
Oct 18, 2022, 19:14
 
jdreyer wrote on Oct 18, 2022, 18:27:
Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 10:45:
There are real role models out there still. They just rarely get much attention in the wealth and celebrity driven social culture which dominates the media, especially in the "social media".
The ones that become famous are the narcissists, by definition. True role models do their good deeds and role modeling without seeking that attention.
Well... occasionally a true role model will be come well known due to some highly publicized event, but they generally fade into the background again afterwards. So I'd agree with your assessment dependent on how you define "famous". But yeah, if you seek fame you have at least some narcissist tendencies in you...
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 18:27
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 18:27
Oct 18, 2022, 18:27
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 10:45:
There are real role models out there still. They just rarely get much attention in the wealth and celebrity driven social culture which dominates the media, especially in the "social media".
The ones that become famous are the narcissists, by definition. True role models do their good deeds and role modeling without seeking that attention.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 09:22
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 09:22
Oct 18, 2022, 09:22
 
But on your math it would be 350, not 35.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed. By the way, where do I sign up to be one of those 350.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 09:13
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 09:13
Oct 18, 2022, 09:13
 
Simon Says wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 22:34:
Acleacius wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 21:51:
At one point because of his dumbassery with Twitter, Tesla was down $450 billion.
That means, he could have given every person in the US a billion dollars each and had 100 billion left for hookers and coke.

There are only 35 persons in the US?

I think you've added a few too many zeroes there.

350 billions divided by ~350 millions ( US pop ) is 1000$ each, not 100 billions...
Holy shit my math sucks!

But on your math it would be 350, not 35.

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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 07:18
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 07:18
Oct 18, 2022, 07:18
 
Make that 1/238 of his wealth, as of Sep 26th 2022 according to his Wikipedia entry. 1/238 of my net worth couldn't cover one of the $4,500 annual StarLink charges he is collecting...
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 18, 2022, 06:41
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 18, 2022, 06:41
Oct 18, 2022, 06:41
 
selection7 wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 22:36:
Elon's a jerk for helping Ukraine: 1,4,11,12,14,16(?),17,19
Helping Ukraine? Generous description. Yeah, he provided some terminals. But he is selling them a service he built. One would assume that's the reason he built it. If the video is accurate (again, I have not verified it with another source) then he is gouging the Ukrainians. He isn't some humanitarian helping the war torn people of Ukraine. He is an opportunist taking advantage of them. He is also attempting to double charge the government for the same service he is already collecting on, again at an inflated rate while simultaneously attempting to get a tax credit for it.

Now, you are right about people being susceptible to propaganda -- I carefully added cautions to my posts. And I welcome additional media outlets to look into this story. Is SpaceX making or losing money in Ukraine? What are the costs outside the terminals he provided? Even if you accept the numbers Musk has provided he could personally fund the cost for the next ten years and not expend 1/40 of his personal wealth. 1/40 of my wealth wouldn't even buy a decent car.

Personally, it seems more like Elon Musk thinks/feels he hasn't received enough praise as the savior of Ukraine, additionally his feelings got hurt when a Ukrainian official told him to fuck off. Which he actually deserved for his ridiculous suggestion. Musk is a clown and a child, who much like Trump reacts without a thought of anything or anyone but himself.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 22:48
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 22:48
Oct 17, 2022, 22:48
 
selection7 wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 22:36:
wrt Elon related comments, I added it up for everyone:
Elon's a jerk for helping Ukraine: 1,4,11,12,14,16(?),17,19
Defending Elon for helping for Ukraine: 20,25(?)
Tangent: 22,23

Now, consider...if it was your life's mission to stop Elon from providing a wartime crucial service to Ukraine, what would would be the best round about way to put a stop to it? If a sea of negativity floods in when he announces he'll keep providing the service, what effect could that have on a guy for whom feeling appreciated could be important? And then what part do we play in this?

Just a public service announcement that is bigger than this particular topic. We all need to be asking ourselves questions like this about the media we consume, because otherwise we become passive consumers susceptible to propaganda. There's a lot of bad people counting on us to do the latter.

https://techcrunch.com
/2022/10/15/starlink-isnt-a-charity-but-the-ukraine-war-isnt-a-business-opportunity

None of those called him a jerk for helping Ukraine.
But he's a jerk for helping Putin
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 22:36
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 22:36
Oct 17, 2022, 22:36
 
wrt Elon related comments, I added it up for everyone:
Elon's a jerk for helping Ukraine: 1,4,11,12,14,16(?),17,19
Defending Elon for helping for Ukraine: 20,25(?)
Tangent: 22,23

Now, consider...if it was your life's mission to stop Elon from providing a wartime crucial service to Ukraine, what would would be the best round about way to put a stop to it? If a sea of negativity floods in when he announces he'll keep providing the service, what effect could that have on a guy for whom feeling appreciated could be important? And then what part do we play in this?

Just a public service announcement that is bigger than this particular topic. We all need to be asking ourselves questions like this about the media we consume, because otherwise we become passive consumers susceptible to propaganda. There's a lot of bad people counting on us to do the latter.

https://techcrunch.com
/2022/10/15/starlink-isnt-a-charity-but-the-ukraine-war-isnt-a-business-opportunity
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 19:55
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 19:55
Oct 17, 2022, 19:55
 
One flaw in that theory, she made public how much she makes and also what things she has invested her money into long before this most recent incident. She was even interviewed and articles published about it. Amouranth has never tried to "Hide" her wealth, quite the opposite.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 12:47
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 12:47
Oct 17, 2022, 12:47
 
The Flying Penguin wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 12:22:
Everyone clamors for celebrity,
Not everyone, only people who don't understand the consequences. What amazes me is how few people understand this. Hell, I figured it out as a teenager. I've never wanted to be famous.

As for Musk, if you follow him on Twitter this is his normal mode.
I would disagree. Yes, Musk is an attention hound, that part is normal. However this claiming to be giving away a service while at the same time charging a rate which makes Martin Shkreli look not so bad... is over the top stupid (assuming the video has accurate information).

He may be looking to do just that and maybe even get a tax credit for it. On a recent tweet thread people were asking about being able to donate for Starlink service to Ukraine and Ethiopia, and he said he would find a way to provide that via the website. Any bets he sets up a 501(c)?
He won't be getting a tax credit when he is actually making money...
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 12:22
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 12:22
Oct 17, 2022, 12:22
 
I remember reading a few weeks ago, when someone hacked her monetization account (for OnlyFans I think) that she pulls in several hundred thousand a month, so I don't think she needs to invent any drama.

She's been scared lately by some stalking incidents, and if she's also married to an abusive husband, that means she's got no safe place.

On one hand I do feel sorry for her and sympathize, but on the other hand this is also the dark side of being a celebrity. Everyone clamors for celebrity, but it also makes you a target, and when you have that kind of money you learn who your real friends and family are.

As for Musk, if you follow him on Twitter this is his normal mode. The man makes impulsive decisions and statements (like someone else we all know) and he often uses Twitter to grouse about something that irks him at the moment and then has to take it back. I suspect he's been looking at the Tesla and SpaceX books lately, and worrying about the stock value (his own fault with the stupid Twitter escapade - another impulsive decision - as well as the economy).

That said, if he doesn't want to put the loss on Starlink's books, all he has to do is make a personal donation to fund the Ukrainian service, and garner good will. A $500 million donation would be a rounding error for him.

He may be looking to do just that and maybe even get a tax credit for it. On a recent tweet thread people were asking about being able to donate for Starlink service to Ukraine and Ethiopia, and he said he would find a way to provide that via the website. Any bets he sets up a 501(c)?
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 10:45
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 10:45
Oct 17, 2022, 10:45
 
There are real role models out there still. They just rarely get much attention in the wealth and celebrity driven social culture which dominates the media, especially in the "social media".
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 10:38
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 10:38
Oct 17, 2022, 10:38
 
VaranDragon wrote on Oct 17, 2022, 09:16:
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 22:58:
How Elon or any other billionaire can be anyone's hero is beyond me.

The world we live in is seriously lacking in quality role models. Not that it was much better back in the day, but hey, you actually HAD people who weren't multi-billionaires who actually contributed to society in a meaningful way.

We still do, except the multi-billionaires and their politicians spend a lot of effort effectively demonizing them
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 09:59
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 09:59
Oct 17, 2022, 09:59
 
The "marriage" sounds much more like a relationship with a pimp...;)
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 09:16
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 09:16
Oct 17, 2022, 09:16
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 22:58:
How Elon or any other billionaire can be anyone's hero is beyond me.

The world we live in is seriously lacking in quality role models. Not that it was much better back in the day, but hey, you actually HAD people who weren't multi-billionaires who actually contributed to society in a meaningful way.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 09:02
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 09:02
Oct 17, 2022, 09:02
 
An additional comment on Musk -- I've considered him to be a clown for a long time. When this little spat about him and the Star Link access for Ukraine happened I just kind of labelled it as another billionaire temper tantrum. Assuming the video is accurate (I certainly have not verified it with other sources) he isn't a clown, he is a real life villain. Good to know.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 08:51
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 08:51
Oct 17, 2022, 08:51
 
Lucidity wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 15:48:
... but Amouranth streams 10-12 hrs a day...
Really? 10 hours a day? Crazy.

... managed to earn millions and even invested a good amount of it wisely.
I had heard this about her. Unfortunately for her the wisdom apparently didn't spread to her interpersonal relationship choices. That said, it is a common problem for people both with and without money.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 08:42
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 08:42
Oct 17, 2022, 08:42
 
MeanJim wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 22:04:
https://youtu.be/3qGg6wiXoSc
I am shocked. SHOCKED! Elon gouging customers? So, much for his claim he was "giving away" access.

No surprise Elon blocked the person who tweeted information on this. I don't know if the information about SpaceX's financial problems are accurate, but assuming they are it isn't surprising to me. Loved the comparison to Martin Shkreli -- seemed appropriate to me.
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 17, 2022, 00:51
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 17, 2022, 00:51
Oct 17, 2022, 00:51
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 22:58:
https://youtu.be/3qGg6wiXoSc

The pricing he's charging is highway robbery ( ... )

How Elon or any other billionaire can be anyone's hero is beyond me.

Oligarch doing oligarch shit.

Who would've thought?
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Re: Sunday Metaverse
Oct 16, 2022, 23:34
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Re: Sunday Metaverse Oct 16, 2022, 23:34
Oct 16, 2022, 23:34
 
1badmf wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 18:45:
jdreyer wrote on Oct 16, 2022, 18:01:
If she has millions, then can't she just abandon those accounts, move, and start new ones? Her fans will follow. Start divorce proceedings. Hopefully she documented the abuse.

it would be tough to leave behind her established accounts and start fresh, but for the sake or her well being, she really should. this prick sounds like he would make it a living hell for her to get him to give up access.

Tina Turner did it.
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