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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 6, 2022, 19:07
Kxmode
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 6, 2022, 19:07
Aug 6, 2022, 19:07
 Kxmode
 
Rilcon wrote on Aug 6, 2022, 00:52:
Kxmode wrote on Aug 5, 2022, 22:34:
We can go off the evidence. If Farm Heroes and Candy Crush were crushing it, Activision-Blizzard would have implemented a similar nickel-and-diming "reasonableness" in DI.
Not having actually played, I sort of assumed DI does have various systems that give you a tiny boost/prizes for "small" mtx, and that most of the hoopla is based around people trying to "100%" the game as fast as possible, combined with it being as big of an IP as Diablo.
Farm Heroes and Candy Crush (and most other mobile games) provide a constant stream of nickel-and-diming small transactions throughout the gameplay experience. DI is the exact opposite. It only comes into play at level 60 (paragon level 1). Activision-Blizzard pulls a player into the game, and once they've reached a level of attachment at level 60, they drop the veil of in-game purchases being suggestions. It's very egregious even by mobile game standards. If nickel-and-diming small transactions were successful, Activision-Blizzard would have implemented a similar system for DI.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 6, 2022, 12:16
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 6, 2022, 12:16
Aug 6, 2022, 12:16
 
So the real question here for PC gamers is... Would you accept microtrans and pay2win setups in your PC games if you got them for free? You might say that some of those paid game already have lots of microtrans stuff to buy, but it's not really at the mobile level (yet).
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 6, 2022, 08:46
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 6, 2022, 08:46
Aug 6, 2022, 08:46
 
Eh.... I play Candy Crush for a quick few minutes during down time. Have they received a red cent directly from me? No and I've been playing for years. Now do they make money off of me? Sure, by watching an advertisement for a few additional turns or a bonus.

So it's not just dollars literally leaving my account into their account; it's also coming from eyes where they're making money. I didn't see anywhere in the article what they said the profits are physically coming from, just total percentage earnings so I guess everyone immediately assumes microtransactions.

I don't necessarily think watching ads makes anyone a knuckledragger or you can turn off your TV and never turn it back on, but go ahead and keep visualizing/stereotyping what you think a typical player of mobile games is.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 6, 2022, 04:03
El Pit
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 6, 2022, 04:03
Aug 6, 2022, 04:03
 El Pit
 
Of course. Fools and their money are easily parted. So go for easy money from the knuckledraggers. No surprise here.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 6, 2022, 00:52
Rilcon
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 6, 2022, 00:52
Aug 6, 2022, 00:52
 Rilcon
 
Kxmode wrote on Aug 5, 2022, 22:34:
We can go off the evidence. If Farm Heroes and Candy Crush were crushing it, Activision-Blizzard would have implemented a similar nickel-and-diming "reasonableness" in DI.
Not having actually played, I sort of assumed DI does have various systems that give you a tiny boost/prizes for "small" mtx, and that most of the hoopla is based around people trying to "100%" the game as fast as possible, combined with it being as big of an IP as Diablo.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 22:34
Kxmode
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 22:34
Aug 5, 2022, 22:34
 Kxmode
 
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 5, 2022, 20:16:
Rilcon wrote on Aug 5, 2022, 19:09:
To note is that Activision bought King Games a whiles ago, and those simple little mobiles games have been engineered to be so addictive and easy to spend money on that they'd put Vegas casinos to shame (and probably be illegal).

Activision says that King titles like Candy Crush and Farm Heroes brought in over $680 million.

(that's 3/4ths of their mobile earnings)
Exactly. It's those nickel and dime little payments that come pouring in from every Tom Dick and Harry, not a whale in sight.
We can go off the evidence. If Farm Heroes and Candy Crush were crushing it, Activision-Blizzard would have implemented a similar nickel-and-diming "reasonableness" in DI.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 20:16
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 20:16
Aug 5, 2022, 20:16
 
Rilcon wrote on Aug 5, 2022, 19:09:
To note is that Activision bought King Games a whiles ago, and those simple little mobiles games have been engineered to be so addictive and easy to spend money on that they'd put Vegas casinos to shame (and probably be illegal).

Activision says that King titles like Candy Crush and Farm Heroes brought in over $680 million.

(that's 3/4ths of their mobile earnings)
Exactly. It's those nickel and dime little payments that come pouring in from every Tom Dick and Harry, not a whale in sight.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 19:34
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 19:34
Aug 5, 2022, 19:34
 
Maybe they're leave the PC game market completely which will allow a developer/publisher that actually likes to make good games have a chance. One can dream.
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 19:13
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 19:13
Aug 5, 2022, 19:13
 
What are we going to do about this? lol. Like ok they make more money with mobile currently, are we supposed to divide and fight to the death over it?
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 19:09
Rilcon
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 19:09
Aug 5, 2022, 19:09
 Rilcon
 
To note is that Activision bought King Games a whiles ago, and those simple little mobiles games have been engineered to be so addictive and easy to spend money on that they'd put Vegas casinos to shame (and probably be illegal).

Activision says that King titles like Candy Crush and Farm Heroes brought in over $680 million.

(that's 3/4ths of their mobile earnings)
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Re: Biz Buzz
Aug 5, 2022, 17:59
Kxmode
 
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Re: Biz Buzz Aug 5, 2022, 17:59
Aug 5, 2022, 17:59
 Kxmode
 
Activision makes more money from a small percentage of whales than the countless peasants who spend $60 for a typical game. In terms of DI, they published a product that makes most of its money from 5% of the player base (and perhaps the truth is closer to 99.99% via jtisallbusiness). That’s not exactly a recipe for success, especially when a small percentage of that 5% stops playing.
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