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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 15, 2022, 20:13
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 15, 2022, 20:13
Jul 15, 2022, 20:13
 
January 2021's 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up was a Ashit Pai joke.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 16, 2022, 02:37
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 16, 2022, 02:37
Jul 16, 2022, 02:37
 
1000/1000 FTTH -- Anything less is just a waste of time and we need to catch up. Haven't we already paid for it?
It's time to start digging trench or mandate the use of existing conduit/infrastructure.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 16, 2022, 04:38
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 16, 2022, 04:38
Jul 16, 2022, 04:38
 
what is your argument of that? we have the option for 500mb here. I choose the lowest 40/10 package as it is cheap. I see no reason to pay for any faster, it streams just fine, downloads fast enough, latency is the same.

I can see that others might run a fully cloud everything and might need a 1000 connection but most home owners dont.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 16, 2022, 06:37
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 16, 2022, 06:37
Jul 16, 2022, 06:37
 
That is a step back for many of us.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 16, 2022, 20:48
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 16, 2022, 20:48
Jul 16, 2022, 20:48
 
The only disadvantage that the consumer will encounter is cost, but that is at the initial setup. Once everyone implements FTTH then the market/competition will bring prices down, especially if municipalities get involved (see Chattanooga TN)

The advantages are everything else, the number one being less time waiting for something to complete equating to more minutes/hours saved in a day.
Not everyone's situation is the same - it would be altruistic and a human benefit to have a level field of performance for everyone at maximum (e.g.1000+/1000+).

I don't know if this analogy (see below) makes sense or not. but if we could build faster and shorter information delivery infrastructure paths then we literally, on a macro level, save years...

From the movie Margin Call:

Eric Dale: Do you know I built a bridge once?
Will Emerson : Sorry?
Eric Dale : A bridge.
Will Emerson : No, I didn't know that.
Eric Dale : I was an engineer by trade.
Will Emerson : Hmmm... hmmm

Eric Dale : It went from Dilles Bottom, Ohio to Moundsville, West Virginia. It spanned nine hundred and twelve feet above the Ohio River. Twelve thousand people used this thing a day. And it cut out thirty-five miles of driving each way between Wheeling and New Martinsville. That's a combined 847,000 miles of driving a day. Or 25,410,000 miles a month. And 304,920,000 miles a year. Saved. Now I completed that project in 1986, that's twenty-two years ago. So over the life of that one bridge, that's 6,708,240,000 miles that haven't had to be driven. At, what, let's say fifty miles an hour. So that's, what, 134,165,800 hours, or 559,020 days. So that one little bridge has saved the people of those communities a combined 1,531 years of their lives not wasted in a fucking car. One thousand five hundred and thirty-one years.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 17, 2022, 08:21
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 17, 2022, 08:21
Jul 17, 2022, 08:21
 
the backhaul infrastructure change for a minimum 1000/1000 is phenominal, even with a contention ratio though. The cost would be prohibitive i see the argument that setting a high bar means people dont get shortchanged but even a cheapish vdsl 80/20 on a contention is a big ask for some small villages. sdsl is costly.

FTTH is mandated for new houses here but the speeds do vary from 100 to around 300, upload from 10 to 50. Most connections are FTTC topping at 80/20 but with bonding available with some ISPs (literal double cost though). 5G is online near us but ive not encountered people actively using it, i do know some people who use a 4g wifi brick as their main connection at around 50/20

I think the future is wireless, certainly when I used to work in Japan this is quite common.

Our work connection is a 1000/1000 and the number of times im capped using adove cloud and onedrive is quite common. Sharepoint online is certainly slower than sharepoint over vpn and that should not be.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 17, 2022, 12:49
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Jul 17, 2022, 12:49
 
'640K is more memory than anyone will ever need.' william g
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 17, 2022, 13:43
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Re: Evening Metaverse Jul 17, 2022, 13:43
Jul 17, 2022, 13:43
 
Wait a sec - are we talking about the same geographic location?
I'm specifically talking about, and limiting my argument to, the United States, because the article is reporting on the FCC.
Even small towns or villages, if you will, in the US, have access to copper landlines for ADSL and would be a perfect candidate for FTTH because the trenches can be dug and infrastructure can be master planned out.
Most if not all, small towns would see this as a massive selling point for growth. "Come to our town, we got clean air, plenty of space, and Google Fiber!"

But I hear you on the cost - it wouldn't be cheap, but then again, the US taxpayer already paid for some this in the 1970s and 1990s via infrastructure and telecommunications acts that were passed by the US Congress.
As for where did the money end up? Well that's another thing.

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