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Beamer wrote on Jul 4, 2022, 09:42:

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 4, 2022, 06:52:

DarkCntry wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 20:39:

sun55 wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 19:59:
You can all complain to the FTC.gov about these practices, if you don't like them. And stop buying drm infested games this happened because you all gave up game ownership.

This has little to do with DRM, but hey, you go off...they do internal audits all the time to how many people utilize the resources of the aforementioned titles and they probably found that it is probably in the single digits over a fairly long period of time and therefor not worth allocating additional resources to.

For all games on that list except Anno 2070 that might be true, but *I* have Anno 2070 installed, modded, and my last save is from this year. That game is not anywhere near not played. It has more players than all the other games on the list combined! And if you want sci-fi Anno without dumbed down mechanics, this be your only option.

Yeah, but do you still do MP with all those mods?
That's all that is ending.

There is tool to play online with mods, and of course I use it. Called AnnoCookie
What's ending is the online service, which includes ARC modules, ARC inventory, Profile Rewards, Event Missions, Profile Statistics (for some reason) and daily missions as well as faction rewards for voting for them. ARRC adds way more harbor slots to balance this out. But you still only get 4:4 (4 of one type, 4 of another) vs a grid of up to 9 global effects you could get before. And they were game changingly huge effects.

Mind you, ARRC has other balance factors for this too, with ARRC you can play fully offline. But you do lose actually quite a lot of features, not just MP gaming

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 4, 2022, 06:52:

DarkCntry wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 20:39:

sun55 wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 19:59:
You can all complain to the FTC.gov about these practices, if you don't like them. And stop buying drm infested games this happened because you all gave up game ownership.

This has little to do with DRM, but hey, you go off...they do internal audits all the time to how many people utilize the resources of the aforementioned titles and they probably found that it is probably in the single digits over a fairly long period of time and therefor not worth allocating additional resources to.

For all games on that list except Anno 2070 that might be true, but *I* have Anno 2070 installed, modded, and my last save is from this year. That game is not anywhere near not played. It has more players than all the other games on the list combined! And if you want sci-fi Anno without dumbed down mechanics, this be your only option.

Yeah, but do you still do MP with all those mods?
That's all that is ending.

DarkCntry wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 20:39:

sun55 wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 19:59:
You can all complain to the FTC.gov about these practices, if you don't like them. And stop buying drm infested games this happened because you all gave up game ownership.

This has little to do with DRM, but hey, you go off...they do internal audits all the time to how many people utilize the resources of the aforementioned titles and they probably found that it is probably in the single digits over a fairly long period of time and therefor not worth allocating additional resources to.

For all games on that list except Anno 2070 that might be true, but *I* have Anno 2070 installed, modded, and my last save is from this year. That game is not anywhere near not played. It has more players than all the other games on the list combined! And if you want sci-fi Anno without dumbed down mechanics, this be your only option.

yonder wrote on Jul 2, 2022, 19:36:

Hardtale wrote on Jul 2, 2022, 14:47:
While I can’t give a hands on comparison but there is U-Boat on Steam early access that’s looks promising.

I think it’s BS that they kill off DLC access in these shutdowns. Ubisoft is the only one I can think of that does this crap. There is still an active player base for modded SH5, I wonder how this is going to affect those?!

If their decades-long 100% predictable and continued anti-consumer practice offends you... MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.

This pretty much. Also Cold Waters is pretty good, although it's UI is very barebones, it gets the job done, though I feel it maybe a little bit on the arcadey side.

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Prez wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 21:37:

sun55 wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 16:11:
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Haven't heard of this troll before

Sure you have. It's the reincarnation of Suppa7.

Reminds me of this old post:

sun55 wrote on Jan 4, 2021, 04:28:

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 3, 2021, 20:48:
I wouldn't throw real MMOs like EQ and WoW into the mess.

You don't grasp basic facts about computers, ...
Most gamers know nothing about computers or the computer industry and that's why we've lost control of game ownership.
Every piece of software can be broken into two sets of executable files, this is what is lost on the mmo/steam generation. ... ...

I didn't know that
Could he really be ... Tim Berners-Lee ?
I'm humbled.
And I worked 25 years programing for H.R. of an oil company, 12 years correcting errors from worldwide SAP (they implemented many of my at the time exclusive shit eventually, but couldn't some valuable trouble shooting stuff).
Had I read these breakthrough insights then, wow.

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Haven't heard of this troll before

sun55 wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 19:59:
You can all complain to the FTC.gov about these practices, if you don't like them. And stop buying drm infested games this happened because you all gave up game ownership.

This has little to do with DRM, but hey, you go off...they do internal audits all the time to how many people utilize the resources of the aforementioned titles and they probably found that it is probably in the single digits over a fairly long period of time and therefor not worth allocating additional resources to.

You can all complain to the FTC.gov about these practices, if you don't like them. And stop buying drm infested games this happened because you all gave up game ownership.

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Think the last thing I bought from them was RB6S years ago.

I did Download Farcey 5 on Gamepass the other day though…

Lame. I normally wouldn't be that bothered by multiplayer/account linking going down on old stuff (Though it's nice when it dosn't!) but losing co-op and DLC is lame as shit. Some of these games are good.

FloorPie wrote on Jul 3, 2022, 01:25:
Are they actually cutting off FC3 completely? As in I can't install it at all? I have it on Steam and its connected as required to my ubi account. I have to buy the season pass to FC5 to play it again? Yet another reason why I ignore Ubi these days. I haven't bought anything from them since Div2. Got Valhalla for free.

No..

Cold Waters is awsome, check out Jive Turkey on Youtube

i found SH5 to be awful. I still play SH3 and SH4 to this day. Heavily modded. All three have a massive subsim presence.

Are they actually cutting off FC3 completely? As in I can't install it at all? I have it on Steam and its connected as required to my ubi account. I have to buy the season pass to FC5 to play it again? Yet another reason why I ignore Ubi these days. I haven't bought anything from them since Div2. Got Valhalla for free.

I don't know how many are playable on private servers. My guess is none. I can still fire up a multiplayer game of the original Descent. If I can still do it for a game that old I should be able to do it with any newer game that has multiplayer. I fucking hate this practice.

RogueSix wrote on Jul 2, 2022, 18:07:
No multiplayer and no lame pointless online generated filler missions = fine, good riddance. But cutting off DLC access (like the shitstorm around M&M XI) is unacceptable. I hope someone sues UbiSoft into oblivion over this. Removing content people have paid for is criminal. They need to ensure that people can access their content offline even if it means additional development work.

It is a display of utmost incompetence that UbiSoft did not take precautions for the termination of online services. The sad truth is, even if they got fined by the EU, it would probably be pocket change. In a normal world they should be fined so hard that they have to file for bankruptcy the next morning. Those assholes.

Well if you sue them into oblivion, you wont be able to play any of their games anymore so might not want to go that far. Maybe sue them into submission?

Hardtale wrote on Jul 2, 2022, 14:47:
While I can’t give a hands on comparison but there is U-Boat on Steam early access that’s looks promising.

I think it’s BS that they kill off DLC access in these shutdowns. Ubisoft is the only one I can think of that does this crap. There is still an active player base for modded SH5, I wonder how this is going to affect those?!

If their decades-long 100% predictable and continued anti-consumer practice offends you... MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.