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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 28, 2022, 14:44
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 27, 2022, 11:46:
“In the states where abortion has been or will soon be banned, any pregnancy loss past an early cutoff (which is conception in some states) can now potentially be investigated as a crime. Search histories, browsing histories, text messages, location data, payment data, information from period-tracking apps—prosecutors can examine all of it if they believe that the loss of a pregnancy may have been deliberate. Even if prosecutors fail to prove that an abortion took place, those who are investigated will be punished by the process, liable for whatever might be found.”
newyorker.com/magazine/ We’re Not Going Back to the Time Before Roe. We’re Going Somewhere Worse
Remember how we got here.
Just be sure not to miscarry, or you could be accused of aborting somehow.
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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 27, 2022, 11:46
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“In the states where abortion has been or will soon be banned, any pregnancy loss past an early cutoff (which is conception in some states) can now potentially be investigated as a crime. Search histories, browsing histories, text messages, location data, payment data, information from period-tracking apps—prosecutors can examine all of it if they believe that the loss of a pregnancy may have been deliberate. Even if prosecutors fail to prove that an abortion took place, those who are investigated will be punished by the process, liable for whatever might be found.”
newyorker.com/magazine/ We’re Not Going Back to the Time Before Roe. We’re Going Somewhere Worse
Remember how we got here.
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Jun 26, 2022, 22:11
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Jun 26, 2022, 22:11
 
Correction: It was confidence in the Supreme Court and not approval. The Gallup Pole was from the 22nd, two days before the court rolled back the calendar on women's rights.

I bet it'll drop lower than 25%.
any takers
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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 26, 2022, 10:27
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Jun 26, 2022, 10:27
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 18:27:
I'm sure that the court will get on all those other concepts that are derived from the constitution but aren't explicitly stated:
- substantive due process
- qualified immunity
- executive privilege
And many other derived rights we currently enjoy.
And just as important is what sitting scotus member Ginni/Clarence Thomas wrote:
"In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell," Thomas wrote, referring to court rulings that protect contraception (Griswold v. Connecticut), same-sex relationships (Lawrence v. Texas), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell v. Hodges).

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/05/1096732347/roe-v-wade-implications-beyond-abortion?

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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 26, 2022, 09:39
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Jun 26, 2022, 09:39
 
It's worth pointing out that millenials and GenZ, which are the most educated and least religious generations yet, are liberal on a 2:1 basis. And, contrary to myth, people don't generally "get conservative" as they age.

Which makes this a very big problem. A religious minority, rapidly shifting beyond retirement age, is essentially holding the rest of the nation hostage. Worse, they make us look like either barbarians, or laughing stocks, to the rest of the world.

So far in June, I've been to 5 countries on 3 continents. When my being American comes up, the first question is always "how the hell did you guys fuck up such a good thing with Trump?" We are no longer respected. What cracks me up, though, is how hypocritical the Trump cult is about that. They repeatedly point out that "Biden is making us an international laughing stock." Had he not followed Trump, that would have been true, but he did follow Trump, and he's actually raising us in global esteem. But when you point out that the world hated Trump, they say that he was hated because he was right. So, Biden being laughed at is bad, Trump being laughed at was good. The mental gymnastics... bottom line, though, we're a dying hegemony. I'm working on an EU passport. There needs to be a better plan B. Billionaires are getting their plan B through international citizenship. Feels the right time to do the same here. This ship is sinking.
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Jun 26, 2022, 08:56
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Jun 26, 2022, 08:56
 
Thanks Teddy, that is exactly what happened and is what's feared what will continue happening. The pendulum has swung too far. Scotus has an approval of 25%, probably the lowest it's ever been. When Americans quit believing in the rule of law there will be bloodshed.
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A Republican lawmaker called the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade a “victory for white life,” and was met with cheers by crowds at a rally held by 45.

In related news, WalMart said they'd ran out of white sheets.
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Jun 26, 2022, 02:12
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The Flying Penguin wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 17:48:
To answer the original question yes this was a challenge in court supreme Court can't just pull this up out of nowhere it has to be a court challenge I think it was Mississippi. Yeah welcome to the American Taliban.

Not 100% accurate. There was a case that got to the supreme court that related to abortion. It did not require that Roe be overturned. In fact, the Chief Justice stated he would have ruled in favour of Mississippi WITHOUT overturning Roe. The douchebag conservative justices did that of their own accord. It was NOT required in the case. The case just gave them the opportunity, which is all they've been waiting on. The exact same thing will happen with gay marriage, contraception laws, and other ridiculous pushes for conservative 'values' soon enough as well.
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Jun 25, 2022, 23:08
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Verno wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 18:10:
Re: Roe v Wade and data implications - there's already discussion of forcing women to submit a negative pregnancy test to cross a State Border. Disgusting, what a depressing day.

If they do, that will guarantee another visit to the supreme court. That would be a violation of Article IV of the Constitution, and the 4th and probably 5th amendments.
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Jun 25, 2022, 22:12
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Hardline Mike wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 20:19:
Verno wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 18:10:
Re: Roe v Wade and data implications - there's already discussion of forcing women to submit a negative pregnancy test to cross a State Border. Disgusting, what a depressing day.

Yeah it's going to get real nasty for women living in red states. Women who will then turn around and vote Republican.
NKD, it's definitely hard to wrap my mind around.
I watched Republicans offer some of the most damaging testimony during the January 6th committee hearings against TFG. They supported him and voted for him and after hearing what they had to say you would think that there would be no way in hell they could vote for him again but the next day one of them said he would vote for him again. It's like they live in an alternate reality.
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Jun 25, 2022, 20:19
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Verno wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 18:10:
Re: Roe v Wade and data implications - there's already discussion of forcing women to submit a negative pregnancy test to cross a State Border. Disgusting, what a depressing day.

Yeah it's going to get real nasty for women living in red states. Women who will then turn around and vote Republican.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 25, 2022, 18:27
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I'm sure that the court will get on all those other concepts that are derived from the constitution but aren't explicitly stated:
- substantive due process
- qualified immunity
- executive privilege
And many other derived rights we currently enjoy.
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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 25, 2022, 18:10
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Re: Roe v Wade and data implications - there's already discussion of forcing women to submit a negative pregnancy test to cross a State Border. Disgusting, what a depressing day.
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Re: Saturday Safety Dance
Jun 25, 2022, 17:48
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To answer the original question yes this was a challenge in court supreme Court can't just pull this up out of nowhere it has to be a court challenge I think it was Mississippi. Yeah welcome to the American Taliban.
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Jun 25, 2022, 17:28
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MeanJim wrote on Jun 25, 2022, 16:55:
One thing I haven't seen in any coverage of this is, did someone challenge this in court, or did the supreme court just decide hey, let's fuck some shit up? If it's the latter, that just doesn't seem right. They shouldn't be able to just overturn a previous court's ruling just because they want to. Hopefully congress will nut up and do something about this, but I probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening. The "government should stay out of our lives" republican party will shut it down.
So many different things including Merrick Garland as a nominee to the Supreme Court for 293 days while mitch mconnell determined how to destroy the USA from the inside while putting a hairy fart in office whose greatest hits were filing for bankruptcy and reality tv because purists couldn't vote for HRC because she said super predator. https://youtu.be/M4iUvD6Y5IA?t=120 thanks Bill Maher

I can only hope that this will be a case of conservatives catching the car, one can only hope.
'The dog that caught the car': Republicans brace for the impact of reversing Roe

Up next: gay marriage, contraceptives and more.
As always there's Betty Bowers for a sanity check Life Is Precious . . . Unless It's Not
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The Post-Roe Privacy Nightmare Has Arrived
Jun 25, 2022, 16:55
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The Post-Roe Privacy Nightmare Has Arrived Jun 25, 2022, 16:55
Jun 25, 2022, 16:55
 
One thing I haven't seen in any coverage of this is, did someone challenge this in court, or did the supreme court just decide hey, let's fuck some shit up? If it's the latter, that just doesn't seem right. They shouldn't be able to just overturn a previous court's ruling just because they want to. Hopefully congress will nut up and do something about this, but I probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening. The "government should stay out of our lives" republican party will shut it down.
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