Op Ed

  • Fast Company: Steam Deck proves game consoles don't need walled gardens.
    "The tech industry is filled with companies that seem deathly afraid of this model, either because they don’t trust their users or don’t want to risk weakening their own ecosystems. By taking the opposite approach, Valve is proving that open platforms aren’t so catastrophic, and it elevates the Steam Deck from yet another gadget into the most exciting consumer electronics device in years."
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 20:02
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 20:02
Jun 22, 2022, 20:02
 
Wesp5 wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:11:
Uh, Steam is pretty much a walled garden for PC games already. Or at least it was until Epic challenged it...

You keep using that word, I don't think you understand what it means.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 18:35
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 18:35
Jun 22, 2022, 18:35
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 17:42:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:34:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:19:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:35:
But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.

Or you could just install Lutris and play GOG, Epic, Steam, and Humble Bundle as you prefer.

No need. They largely play fine as is.

Really? So they have a custom version of Steam running on the Deck that is acting as the host for GOG, Epic, and Humble Bundle as well and they do all the WINE and Proton configuration for you automagically?

Because, currently, Steam on Linux doesn't do that. It only handles Steam games and Proton internally.

Lutris allows you to use your native GOG, Steam, Epic, and Humble Bundle accounts in one launcher and does all the configuration for you.

Edit: I realize the first two sentences may come off as dickish. I was more incredulous than meaning to be acerbic.
So did my response, as I thought you were bashing SD when I replied, then realized you were trying to be helpful and support it.

All I know is Epic games are playable.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 18:30
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 18:30
Jun 22, 2022, 18:30
 
Sepharo wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 17:59:
You can do whatever you can do on Linux, no?
It's not that mysterious, it's a Linux OS on a handheld device.

But if you click the “Power” menu option in Steam Deck settings and select “Switch to Desktop,” that simple interface falls away, revealing the desktop of an Arch Linux computer.

Eh...sort of. They are using an A/B style base OS image. You need to be conversant on how to manipulate that as well as how to install and manipulate Flatpaks.

For someone like me, no problem. For someone just getting in to Linux (especially sort-of-but-not-really Arch), it's going to be an uphill slog.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 17:59
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 17:59
Jun 22, 2022, 17:59
 
You can do whatever you can do on Linux, no?
It's not that mysterious, it's a Linux OS on a handheld device.

But if you click the “Power” menu option in Steam Deck settings and select “Switch to Desktop,” that simple interface falls away, revealing the desktop of an Arch Linux computer.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 17:42
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 17:42
Jun 22, 2022, 17:42
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:34:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:19:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:35:
But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.

Or you could just install Lutris and play GOG, Epic, Steam, and Humble Bundle as you prefer.

No need. They largely play fine as is.

Really? So they have a custom version of Steam running on the Deck that is acting as the host for GOG, Epic, and Humble Bundle as well and they do all the WINE and Proton configuration for you automagically?

Because, currently, Steam on Linux doesn't do that. It only handles Steam games and Proton internally.

Lutris allows you to use your native GOG, Steam, Epic, and Humble Bundle accounts in one launcher and does all the configuration for you.

Edit: I realize the first two sentences may come off as dickish. I was more incredulous than meaning to be acerbic.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 16:55
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 16:55
Jun 22, 2022, 16:55
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:34:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:19:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:35:
But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.

Or you could just install Lutris and play GOG, Epic, Steam, and Humble Bundle as you prefer.

No need. They largely play fine as is.

Do you add the other games to your steam account to play them?
I have games on all of those platforms that I would love to play on the deck.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 16:34
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 16:34
Jun 22, 2022, 16:34
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 16:19:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:35:
But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.

Or you could just install Lutris and play GOG, Epic, Steam, and Humble Bundle as you prefer.

No need. They largely play fine as is.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 16:19
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 16:19
Jun 22, 2022, 16:19
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:35:
But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.

Or you could just install Lutris and play GOG, Epic, Steam, and Humble Bundle as you prefer.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 15:35
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 15:35
Jun 22, 2022, 15:35
 
Wesp5 wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:11:
Uh, Steam is pretty much a walled garden for PC games already. Or at least it was until Epic challenged it...

But the Steam Deck can play Epic games. It's a carrot, with the expectation being that Steam games are superior on it due to support, and therefore people will buy them, rather than a stick, punishing you for trying to sideload non-Steam games.

It's a great model.
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 15:22
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 15:22
Jun 22, 2022, 15:22
 
Wesp5 wrote on Jun 22, 2022, 15:11:
Uh, Steam is pretty much a walled garden for PC games already. Or at least it was until Epic challenged it...
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 15:11
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 15:11
Jun 22, 2022, 15:11
 
Uh, Steam is pretty much a walled garden for PC games already. Or at least it was until Epic challenged it...
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Re: Op Ed
Jun 22, 2022, 12:21
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Re: Op Ed Jun 22, 2022, 12:21
Jun 22, 2022, 12:21
 
Exciting, yes, but only to PC gamers or is a more general success expected ?
Is there any interest shown at all on the handheld users' camp and their news sites?
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