Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up

A tweet from VOID Interactive follows up on the news that Ready or Not has been delisted from Steam. This goes against the theory that this was because of the addition of a nightclub shooting level on the anniversary of the infamous Pulse shooting. It says this was due to a copyright problem with that map, and that the game will return once this is fixed. One of the replies in the Twitter thread says the only required fix is to change the name of the club in the map. This does not explain why the entire game needed to be delisted, nor does the official announcement itself. Here's that:

To the Ready or Not Community,

We'd like to address the rumors surrounding the takedown of Ready or Not and its associated pages on Steam that occurred on Thursday, June 16th.

A takedown request was issued via Steam concerning a suggestive trademark infringement in our recent Night Club map that was shared as part of our most recent Steam update . We take IP concerns very seriously, and in a show of good faith, we have decided to remove the subject materials and any reference to them from Ready or Not and from any of our social media or other publications.

Ready or Not will return to the Steam store once we complete the changes. We have also removed the AI update video from our YouTube channel and from our Steam store page, and anticipate that these will be restored after an editing process is completed

Sincerely the VOID Interactive Team
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up
Jun 20, 2022, 10:32
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 20, 2022, 10:32
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Hardline Mike wrote on Jun 20, 2022, 09:10:
Beamer wrote on Jun 20, 2022, 04:47:
No chance. This was very deliberately the anniversary of Pulse.

Something which almost no one actually playing would probably have thought about. I sure couldn't tell you the anniversary of any mass shooting in the US, given how many we have. That makes me wonder why they would do it, even intentionally. If not for some unrelated copyright issue, would probably have gone completely unremarked in the news.

Which is why I don't think they're edgelords. Just naive.
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Beamer wrote on Jun 20, 2022, 04:47:
No chance. This was very deliberately the anniversary of Pulse.

Something which almost no one actually playing would probably have thought about. I sure couldn't tell you the anniversary of any mass shooting in the US, given how many we have. That makes me wonder why they would do it, even intentionally. If not for some unrelated copyright issue, would probably have gone completely unremarked in the news.
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Jun 20, 2022, 04:47
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 20, 2022, 04:47
Jun 20, 2022, 04:47
 
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 20, 2022, 02:18:
Teddy wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 23:29:
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
Cutter wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:04:
Is it just me or does it really sound like these bottom feeders staged this for the free publicity? Those assholes seriously need to die in a fire.

Agreed. I could understand just a adding a generic club scenario, but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern and on the anniversary of the tragedy makes the act deplorable. Obvious vultures trying to capitalize on the massacre and appeal to a player base that was to fetishize the event.

Hey look, uninformed blind outrage. It's always fascinating to watch people get whipped up into a frenzy over something that DIDN'T happen.

Fair. I spent all of 30 seconds looking into the situation before posting words on the internet. As for the timing, it is also a fair point that almost every day is the anniversary of some mass shooting in the US. The developers might of just been unlucky there.

No chance. This was very deliberately the anniversary of Pulse. Similar setup, similar club name.

That said, I don't think these are malicious edgelords, I think they're naive dips. I don't think they mean harm, I think they're just too naive to think through broader implications and how their actions would be perceived.
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Jun 20, 2022, 02:18
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 20, 2022, 02:18
Jun 20, 2022, 02:18
 
Teddy wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 23:29:
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
Cutter wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:04:
Is it just me or does it really sound like these bottom feeders staged this for the free publicity? Those assholes seriously need to die in a fire.

Agreed. I could understand just a adding a generic club scenario, but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern and on the anniversary of the tragedy makes the act deplorable. Obvious vultures trying to capitalize on the massacre and appeal to a player base that was to fetishize the event.

Hey look, uninformed blind outrage. It's always fascinating to watch people get whipped up into a frenzy over something that DIDN'T happen.

Fair. I spent all of 30 seconds looking into the situation before posting words on the internet. As for the timing, it is also a fair point that almost every day is the anniversary of some mass shooting in the US. The developers might of just been unlucky there.
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Jun 19, 2022, 17:35
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 17:35
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Jun 19, 2022, 00:43:
Lack of information, Teddy, possibly calculated for maximum attention.

Always fascinating to see the unfazed ones jumping up to strut their clever distancing from ethical matters, being above it all.

But you are confused, the "frenzy" and outrage of many abides, because it's caused by the obvious cheap commercializing effort of tragedy and the coarseness of the devs.
No new info changes that.

Evidently, you are immune to that view.

"Possibly" meaning, "Hey, I'm going to make even more stuff up to be angry about. Who cares if it's actually true or not?"

As for ethical matters, sure. It's so much better when the media simply ignores that tragedies happen in the real world rather than addresses the simple fact that they exist. So much better when we can just ignore it all, or completely forget about it for 11 months at a time, and add a background to our facebook avatars once a year to make ourselves feel better.

Whatever makes you able to go to bed angry at night dude. Feel free to be as outraged as you want, I'll keep laughing at the hypocrisy of it all.
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Jun 19, 2022, 13:45
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 13:45
Jun 19, 2022, 13:45
 
MeanJim wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 19:57:
Hardline Mike wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 17:33:
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern

Just pointing out, the copyright issue is not with the club where the shooting was, but a completely unrelated club in Chicago.

Also, it was just the name of the club. They didn't model the club after any real location. As for the timing of the release, 1) it's not publicly released yet, it's only available for those that paid $80 for the privilege of being an alpha tester, and 2) the map has been in the game for months in an unfinished state.


Get out of here with your facts. Theses people want to be outraged at this situation! This is monstrous! The developers deserve to DIE!!! (christ, you're a caricature of an old angry man screaming at cloud if you think that.)
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Jun 19, 2022, 04:06
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 04:06
Jun 19, 2022, 04:06
 
Kosumo wrote on Jun 19, 2022, 03:30:
My question is ..... is the game any good?
With the way the devs apparently court controversy to get the name of their game in headlines, I'd lean towards it not being able to stand on its own merits.
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Jun 19, 2022, 03:59
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 03:59
Jun 19, 2022, 03:59
 
I'd be more impressed if they had some guy running around in a bear suit, with the head replaced by a wire helmet/cage filled with bees, while wildly waving a gun around screaming "NOT THE BEES!"
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Jun 19, 2022, 03:51
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 03:51
Jun 19, 2022, 03:51
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It's SWAT 4 with better graphics, bullet penetration, much dumber AI, and a weird obsession with trapped door bombs.
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 03:30
Jun 19, 2022, 03:30
 
My question is ..... is the game any good?
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Jun 19, 2022, 00:43
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 19, 2022, 00:43
Jun 19, 2022, 00:43
 
Lack of information, Teddy, possibly calculated for maximum attention.

Always fascinating to see the unfazed ones jumping up to strut their clever distancing from ethical matters, being above it all.

But you are confused, the "frenzy" and outrage of many abides, because it's caused by the obvious cheap commercializing effort of tragedy and the coarseness of the devs.
No new info changes that.

Evidently, you are immune to that view.

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Jun 19, 2022, 00:40
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Jun 19, 2022, 00:40
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Popcorn
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up
Jun 18, 2022, 23:29
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 18, 2022, 23:29
Jun 18, 2022, 23:29
 
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
Cutter wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:04:
Is it just me or does it really sound like these bottom feeders staged this for the free publicity? Those assholes seriously need to die in a fire.

Agreed. I could understand just a adding a generic club scenario, but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern and on the anniversary of the tragedy makes the act deplorable. Obvious vultures trying to capitalize on the massacre and appeal to a player base that was to fetishize the event.

Hey look, uninformed blind outrage. It's always fascinating to watch people get whipped up into a frenzy over something that DIDN'T happen.
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Jun 18, 2022, 19:57
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 18, 2022, 19:57
Jun 18, 2022, 19:57
 
Hardline Mike wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 17:33:
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern

Just pointing out, the copyright issue is not with the club where the shooting was, but a completely unrelated club in Chicago.

Also, it was just the name of the club. They didn't model the club after any real location. As for the timing of the release, 1) it's not publicly released yet, it's only available for those that paid $80 for the privilege of being an alpha tester, and 2) the map has been in the game for months in an unfinished state.
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Jun 18, 2022, 17:33
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Jun 18, 2022, 17:33
 
SimplyMonk wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 16:38:
but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern

Just pointing out, the copyright issue is not with the club where the shooting was, but a completely unrelated club in Chicago.
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Cutter wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:04:
Is it just me or does it really sound like these bottom feeders staged this for the free publicity? Those assholes seriously need to die in a fire.

Agreed. I could understand just a adding a generic club scenario, but going so far as to copy the club to the point where copyright infringement is a concern and on the anniversary of the tragedy makes the act deplorable. Obvious vultures trying to capitalize on the massacre and appeal to a player base that was to fetishize the event.
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Jun 18, 2022, 16:19
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 18, 2022, 16:19
Jun 18, 2022, 16:19
 
RogueSix wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:15:
No surprise there. I'm not sure why people thought it might have been pulled over something morally ambiguous. Steam/Valve has an established track record of giving exactly zero fucks about morals.

Timing, really. And some 2RA fanatics really bringing back "video games are the real problem," combined with this being released on the anniversary, during pride month, with bodies as window dressing.

But your point stands
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Jun 18, 2022, 15:52
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Re: Ready or Not Delisting Follow-up Jun 18, 2022, 15:52
Jun 18, 2022, 15:52
 
This seems like an internal disagreement within Valve similar to what happened with Hatred. My thing is if you allow games depicting underage Japanese schoolgirls being raped by tentacles you've pretty much stated to the world that anything goes so to suddenly have content standards now is laughable.
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Jun 18, 2022, 15:17
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Cutter wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:04:
Those assholes seriously need to die in a fire.
That's a bit extreme...

RogueSix wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 14:15:
No surprise there. I'm not sure why people thought it might have been pulled over something morally ambiguous. Steam/Valve has an established track record of giving exactly zero fucks about morals.
They did delist a school shooting simulator some years ago...
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No surprise there. I'm not sure why people thought it might have been pulled over something morally ambiguous. Steam/Valve has an established track record of giving exactly zero fucks about morals.
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