Ready or Not Delisted on Steam [Jun 17, 2022, 5:55 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Ready or Not is no longer ready, as the game's Steam page is currently
unavailable. A
tweet
from developer VOID Interactive and a
post on Steam acknowledge the removal, but express ignorance about what
happened: "There is an issue somewhere with Steams [sic] Backend and it's
resulted in the game being taken off the store for some reason, but Ready or Not
is still on the platform." This may not be as mysterious as that, however, as
NME reports the removal came after the game added a level involving a mass
shooting at a nightclub called Prysm. This recalls the news from
last
December when Team17 announced it was no longer publishing the game shortly
after
the developer said it was planning a school shooting level. Here's word on
how the new Prysm update came on the sixth anniversary of the Pulse nightclub
shooting:
Prysm takes place in the aftermath of a terrorist attack at a nightclub, and depicts the scene of a mass shooting, with piles of bodies strewn across the map. The level bears some resemblance to the 2015 Bataclan shooting in Paris, as well as the 2016 shooting at Pulse nightclub. Questionably, the map was added on June 12 – the anniversary of the Pulse nightclub shooting.
While no connection has been confirmed, Valve has removed games depicting similar scenes in the past – in 2018, Valve de-platformed a game called Active Shooter after complaints from campaigns from parents of school shooting victims.
JFC, talk about bottom feeders. Use them as target practice in the Ukraine.
Yes valve shit happens. Welcome to reality.
I purchased it, played around and refunded it. Not my type of game.
Steam as a whole is a very unstable platform and games just go missing and become delisted all the time. I thought that was well known by everyone.
There may be a little bit of sarcasm, but I'm not sure, I can't tell anymore.
Steam as a whole is a very unstable platform and games just go missing and become delisted all the time. I thought that was well known by everyone.
There may be a little bit of sarcasm, but I'm not sure, I can't tell anymore.
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I mean, that's some pretty sensitive material. Sucks the dev potentially isn't being up front about it. Not sure I'd have gotten the game either way, but I'm also not sure how they'd be able to handle that kind of material properly. Probably not at all, given these things happen far too frequently IRL.
My name in history syndrome at whatever price a.k.a. Alex Jones p.o.s.
If they can't be shooters in a tragedy, they'll depict one or negate one to get known or paid.
Idiots and monsters.
If they can't be shooters in a tragedy, they'll depict one or negate one to get known or paid.
Idiots and monsters.
I don't know what happened either...I mean it sounds like such a tasteful and well-done level. Not all flying in the face of the too-frequent tragedies in the US stemming from colossally stupid politicians mixed with powerful organizations with no accountability.
Maybe they should have just gone the No Russian route. Valve would probably have not batted an eye.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.
If you feel you absolutely must do a SWAT type game set in the US, not having a mass shooting scenario would be sort of stupid. I mean you can only bust down the doors of so many trap houses before they get samey.
That said, I don't like cop-worship games to begin with.
That said, I don't like cop-worship games to begin with.
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"... not having a mass shooting scenario would be sort of stupid. "
Almost as stupid as using the anniversary date of a real massacre, and a similar name of the place, and getting your game delisted for your clever efforts.
Almost as stupid as using the anniversary date of a real massacre, and a similar name of the place, and getting your game delisted for your clever efforts.
The school shooting response scenario, I could understand why it'd be controversial, considered crass, but ultimately be a (very fucking sadly) natural and almost expected fit in a SWAT game clone.
And a club shooting, sure; I'm almost certain I remember a SWAT 3 or 4 map was a nightclub, and a few other games as well (popular place for gangs and druglords and all that) have had similar.
But the date... Yeah, no. Either the dev team is composed of nothing but absolute clueless morons (and sycophants) that, despite making a game all about shootings, and setting a game in a nightclub shooting, didn't know... or, more likely, they did, and are either sociopaths hoping for a controversy-boost, or, well, worse.
And a club shooting, sure; I'm almost certain I remember a SWAT 3 or 4 map was a nightclub, and a few other games as well (popular place for gangs and druglords and all that) have had similar.
But the date... Yeah, no. Either the dev team is composed of nothing but absolute clueless morons (and sycophants) that, despite making a game all about shootings, and setting a game in a nightclub shooting, didn't know... or, more likely, they did, and are either sociopaths hoping for a controversy-boost, or, well, worse.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 17, 2022, 22:06:It does make one wonder where the line is. Modern Warfare 2 is still for sale, Postal is still for sale, Manhunt is still for sale, Hatred is still for sale. At least in Ready or Not you play as the good guys, unlike all the other games I just mentioned, which makes the delisting even weirder. I guess the specificity was just too much.
Maybe they should have just gone the No Russian route. Valve would probably have not batted an eye.
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Hardline Mike wrote on Jun 17, 2022, 22:48:My thought is such a game could actually be cathartic/therapeutic (talking about a school shooter level, not the nightclub). You're able to tackle that situation as a player and do it right, unlike what actually happened in reality recently with those chickenshits.
If you feel you absolutely must do a SWAT type game set in the US, not having a mass shooting scenario would be sort of stupid. I mean you can only bust down the doors of so many trap houses before they get samey.
That said, I don't like cop-worship games to begin with.Actually, same here.
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 02:47:Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 17, 2022, 22:06:It does make one wonder where the line is. Modern Warfare 2 is still for sale, Postal is still for sale, Manhunt is still for sale, Hatred is still for sale. At least in Ready or Not you play as the good guys, unlike all the other games I just mentioned, which makes the delisting even weirder. I guess the specificity was just too much.
Maybe they should have just gone the No Russian route. Valve would probably have not batted an eye.
I'd guess two-fold.
First, the pile of dead bodies. A game like swat wouldn't have that
Second, No Russian isn't played for unwarranted shock value. It's to show the evil of the villain, the enablement of the "good guys," and the choice/involvement of the player. It had a purpose. And the victims weren't the audience, as harsh as that sounds it does make a difference, which is why you don't really see games where you fight the American military in a historic operation.
This would have been fine without the bodies, I'd guess. Maybe not. With Fox News so quick to blame mass shootings on video games, it's probably wise to not give them fuel to air
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The reason was told to them and they don't tell us, that tells us everything.
Why don't they just make a mall mass shooting level instead. Haven't had one of those yet.
there are a number of ww1 shooters, more died at the somme than US domestic shootings combined.
The line is thin of course.
Probably more a case of sensitivities and depends on likenesses. As others have said there are far worse games out there for this one to be censored.
The line is thin of course.
Probably more a case of sensitivities and depends on likenesses. As others have said there are far worse games out there for this one to be censored.
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https://twitter.com/VOIDInteractive/status/1538010819371290624/photo/1
They got pwned for trademark infringement.
They got pwned for trademark infringement.
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Jun 18, 2022, 08:03
Jun 18, 2022, 08:03
Well that makes sense then. All they had to do was change the names and keep the setting. Rockstar does it all the time. Like the GTA series with city names and cars.
eRe4s3r wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 06:58:
https://twitter.com/VOIDInteractive/status/1538010819371290624/photo/1
They got pwned for trademark infringement.
Man, I love this country. You can show mowing down civvies by the truckload without anyone batting an eye. Have something that's a bit too on the nose of a different IP? Then all Hell breaks loose.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.
Armengar wrote on Jun 18, 2022, 06:53:
there are a number of ww1 shooters, more died at the somme than US domestic shootings combined.
The line is thin of course.
Probably more a case of sensitivities and depends on likenesses. As others have said there are far worse games out there for this one to be censored.
To be fair, I'd hope more people died in a world war than by random civilians shooting other random civilians. It's not much of an indictment of the right to gun ownership though.
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