Bodolza wrote on May 27, 2022, 13:13:
And where's your proof that "everyone that is a fan of the game hates it" to quote you?
Bodolza wrote on May 27, 2022, 13:13:
Which means you have seen people defending it, therefore by your own admission "everyone that is a fan of the game hates it" is wrong.
Bodolza wrote on May 27, 2022, 13:13:
This is patently false and disingenous. I can easily point you to people having actual discussion about the TV show
Razumen wrote on May 27, 2022, 00:58:And where's your proof that "everyone that is a fan of the game hates it" to quote you?
So you know a few people that like it, wow, congrats! You've discovered the useless world of ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.
You can clearly see more people complaining about it online than defenders.Which means you have seen people defending it, therefore by your own admission "everyone that is a fan of the game hates it" is wrong. Why can't you admit that you're wrong in saying all fans of the game hated the TV show? Are you just filled with blind rage over a TV show?
And defenders just say "BuT i LikE iT!"This is patently false and disingenous. I can easily point you to people having actual discussion about the TV show, so I know you could also easily find them yourself. You want to "explain it like [I'm] 5" but you're the one using extreme hyperbole and overexageration like a child. If you want to have a serious conversation like an adult, then I'm happy to do so. Let me know if you're interested in having a real discussion about the TV show, and I'll be happy to discuss specifics about what I thought worked and didn't work. Otherwise, I'm not interested in wasting more time on someone acting like a petulant child.
>Many of the plot points are the same.You do understand the difference between "many" and "all", right? Words matter when you're communicating online.
Ah yes, I remember in the games where Chief walks around naked and has sex with a covenant spy. Such respect!!
Bodolza wrote on May 26, 2022, 18:07:Razumen wrote on May 26, 2022, 04:04:Ok. I've played several of the games, and mostly enjoyed them, and I didn't think it was "shit". I've spoken to friends who are huge fans of the games (one was a pro Halo 2 player), and they've also enjoyed the show. In some cases, more than I did, since I didn't think the Kwan Ha storyline worked. There, I proved it. Now admit you were wrong.
Prove it. Basically every fan I've heard from thinks it is shit.Anyone that does not respect the source material, by definition CANNOT make a good adaptation.It's just your opinion that it did not respect the source material. Their are plenty of examples of them following the source material. The vehicles were recreated almost exactly. Some of the Covenant are almost exact copies of the game versions. Many of the plot points are the same. They also tried to make a compelling narative with character development. The production showed a lot of thought and energy went into its making, which shows real respect for the property.
Razumen wrote on May 26, 2022, 04:04:Ok. I've played several of the games, and mostly enjoyed them, and I didn't think it was "shit". I've spoken to friends who are huge fans of the games (one was a pro Halo 2 player), and they've also enjoyed the show. In some cases, more than I did, since I didn't think the Kwan Ha storyline worked. There, I proved it. Now admit you were wrong.
Prove it. Basically every fan I've heard from thinks it is shit.
Anyone that does not respect the source material, by definition CANNOT make a good adaptation.It's just your opinion that it did not respect the source material. Their are plenty of examples of them following the source material. The vehicles were recreated almost exactly. Some of the Covenant are almost exact copies of the game versions. Many of the plot points are the same. They also tried to make a compelling narative with character development. The production showed a lot of thought and energy went into its making, which shows real respect for the property.
Razumen wrote on May 26, 2022, 04:04:
Anyone that does not respect the source material, by definition CANNOT make a good adaptation.
Bodolza wrote on May 26, 2022, 00:56:Razumen wrote on May 25, 2022, 21:13:
When everyone that is a fan of the game hates it, it IS a failed adaptation
Many fans of the game did not hate it. Your basic premise is flawed. Many other people are capable of understanding that an "adaptation" is not a recreation.
Nullity wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:34:
Came to says basically what Simon already has. I mean, the showrunner has proudly boasted that they never even looked at the game or other source material.
I mean, in what possible universe can you create a decent adaptation when you're willfully ignorant of the source?
Razumen wrote on May 25, 2022, 21:13:
When everyone that is a fan of the game hates it, it IS a failed adaptation
Bodolza wrote on May 25, 2022, 14:14:
Except it wasn't a failed adaptation. Plenty of people liked it, and it's renewed for a second season. The author even admits so in the very first paragraph.
soundeffects wrote on May 25, 2022, 16:34:
The problem I have with the show is only that it doesn't feel authentic. The reason for that is an essential difference in storytelling mediums. In the games the main character is pretty hollow, and that's on purpose, it allows the player to lose themselves in the game easier if they don't have to compete with a strong personality.
In the show, you have to answer a ton of questions about who the protagonist is, questions that the game doesn't have to address.
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:37:
What part of video game lore isn't made up?
Simon Says wrote on May 25, 2022, 14:35:Scottish Martial Arts wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:37:Simon Says wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:12:
The reason it's a bad adaptation isn't because it came from a videogame lore, it's because they mostly ignored said lore and tried to tack on made up shit onto it that just doesn't fit with the vibe of the games.
What part of video game lore isn't made up?
Keywords: "that just doesn't fit"
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:37:Simon Says wrote on May 25, 2022, 13:12:
The reason it's a bad adaptation isn't because it came from a videogame lore, it's because they mostly ignored said lore and tried to tack on made up shit onto it that just doesn't fit with the vibe of the games.
What part of video game lore isn't made up?