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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 23:43
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 23:43
May 13, 2022, 23:43
 
Mike1233 wrote on May 13, 2022, 21:09:
I had a Sgt. friend who would pour a pile of gunpowder on his hard drives. The chassis and the drive would get welded together. I also found out that the discs were bullet proof against pistol rounds.

I have found that .44Mag rounds and .50 rounds punch through platters well enough.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 23:36
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 23:36
May 13, 2022, 23:36
 
Use a thermite pot.

How-to: Thermite Hard Drive Destruction
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate up hill." - Blade
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 21:09
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 21:09
May 13, 2022, 21:09
 
I had a Sgt. friend who would pour a pile of gunpowder on his hard drives. The chassis and the drive would get welded together. I also found out that the discs were bullet proof against pistol rounds.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 19:16
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 19:16
May 13, 2022, 19:16
 
A buddy was contracting in iraqghanistan and dealt with a lot of iffy humans. Pornography was widely shared in emails. One day he looked at some of it and saw that there was illegal shit.
I immediately said so you burnt that drive didn't you.
He replied it was his own personal laptop that he used for work and that parts were hard to come by so he just ran the dod wipe.
He felt secure in that he wasn't actively seeking or sharing the material.
Since that was many years ago and he can still go into a Chuck E Cheese I'm assuming it was good enough.

I still would have burnt the drive.

- At this point, Windows is the OS equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome. -
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 18:59
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 18:59
May 13, 2022, 18:59
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 13, 2022, 13:15:
Absolute destruction is the only way to guarantee 100% that the data is irretrievable.

Simon Says wrote on May 13, 2022, 17:16:
Restoring erased data is a risky affair with a much lower level of success than you'd imagine and that's on hard drives where you can cheat using advanced scanning techniques due to the way data is stored and combining it with intelligent algorithms ( and AI lately ).

Lower level of success ≠ 100% data destruction.

Simon Says wrote on May 13, 2022, 17:16:
So when you take the measures I outlined below on a SSD...

I'm not saying that doesn't work for the home user, I am saying that it is not ensured 100% data destruction. Physical destruction of the device, however, is.

Simon Says wrote on May 13, 2022, 17:16:
It's 100% foolproof, but... it can never be 100% if you choose to act paranoid about it so *shrugs*.

"Only the paranoid survive." - Andy Grove.

I follow the same practices at home that I do at work. I combine both the NSA/CSS EPL-Solid State Disintegrators Guide and NSA/CSS EPL-Hard Disk Drive Destruction Guide together which means full device destruction of anything with storage memory barring removable DRAM.

You are more than welcome to disagree, we just have different thresholds for ensuring data sanitization.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 17:16
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 17:16
May 13, 2022, 17:16
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 13, 2022, 13:15:
Absolute destruction is the only way to guarantee 100% that the data is irretrievable.

Hard disagree.

Restoring erased data is a risky affair with a much lower level of success than you'd imagine and that's on hard drives where you can cheat using advanced scanning techniques due to the way data is stored and combining it with intelligent algorithms ( and AI lately ).

So when you take the measures I outlined below on a SSD of all things that auto zeros it's cells on it's own using TRIM with the lowest possible margin for error in the precision on purpose in order to fit multiple bits in the same cell before you even start the whole 4 pass process ( 5 if you count the initial selective TRIM on erasure before the format )? Even the best data retrieval tech in the world with the best equipment and tons of time isn't gonna find shit.

And I'm not talking outa my ass, there has been studies, tests, experiments and challenges with fat bounties about that. Anything above erasure with 3 passes is considered PLACEBO on a SSD. That wasn't true with hard drives, but times change.

It's 100% foolproof, but... it can never be 100% if you choose to act paranoid about it so *shrugs*.

You do you.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 17:13
Kxmode
 
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 17:13
May 13, 2022, 17:13
 Kxmode
 
A HUGE Acme Magnet 🧲
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 15:38
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 15:38
May 13, 2022, 15:38
 
jdreyer wrote on May 13, 2022, 15:05:
Out here, we just hike out to the ol' lava pit, and toss 'em in.
The trek to Mount Doom was worth it Cool
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 15:05
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 15:05
May 13, 2022, 15:05
 
Out here, we just hike out to the ol' lava pit, and toss 'em in.
I'm a smoldering volcano of virility. At least, that's what I tell myself.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 14:04
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 14:04
May 13, 2022, 14:04
 
RedEye9 wrote on May 13, 2022, 13:25:
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 13, 2022, 13:15:
It's less hassle to buy a new SSD, slap it in to the laptop, and install an OS.
I slap a kitchen magnet on them and toss'em in the desk.
instant nukeareno

What exactly does a magnet do to a SSD drive?
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 13:25
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 13:25
May 13, 2022, 13:25
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 13, 2022, 13:15:
It's less hassle to buy a new SSD, slap it in to the laptop, and install an OS.
I slap a kitchen magnet on them and toss'em in the desk.
instant nukeareno
- At this point, Windows is the OS equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome. -
Burrito of Peace
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 13:15
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 13:15
May 13, 2022, 13:15
 
It's less hassle to buy a new SSD, slap it in to the laptop, and install an OS.

Then destroy the old one. Absolute destruction is the only way to guarantee 100% that the data is irretrievable.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 12:46
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 12:46
May 13, 2022, 12:46
 
Erase WITHOUT destroying the drive folks...



Personally I would remove it from the laptop, plug it in a desktop, slow format it ( or low level format ) then run Privazer ( or similar software that is 100% thorough and leaves nothing behind, in other words, CCleaner doesn't count ) with a scrambling 2 pass algorithm if it's a SSD.

That's 4 passes total, slow format + 2 pass ( USA-AF AFSSI 5020 ) + TRIM ( since the second pass on 5020 is random data ) = Bbye data.

You then plug it back in the laptop and sell it.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 12:05
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May 13, 2022, 12:05
 
With all of the floating space junk careening around now, nuking from orbit isn't necessarily the safest way any more. What with the space station having to take emergency evasive maneuvers to avoid it and still getting nailed at least once.

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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 12:02
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 12:02
May 13, 2022, 12:02
 
SelfTapping sheet metal screws or a bandsaw.
- At this point, Windows is the OS equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome. -
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Re: Morning Mobilization
May 13, 2022, 11:06
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Re: Morning Mobilization May 13, 2022, 11:06
May 13, 2022, 11:06
 
Two .45-70 rounds will permanently erase your laptops hard drive.
"Just take a look around you, what do you see? Pain, suffering, and misery." -Black Sabbath, Killing Yourself to Live.

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