The Flying Penguin wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 20:22:
I liked The Batman as well. It has it's problems, but there's a lot of good there.

I like the fact that we're seeing Batman in his first two years, still a rough around the edges, with a bit of a kludgy suit, and not totally sure of himself. That moment when he almost falls off the police HQ building for instance, and does the bad landing with the flying suit.

I like how the cape nearly got him killed one time.

I really like the suit. It doesn't look like a rubber doll. It looks functional, and a little sloppy. It actually reminded me a bit of Nite Owl's outfit from Watchmen. I'll have to watch some behind the scenes, but I'm fairly sure he actually wore that suit all the time and it wasn't CGI'd.

The idea that the whole suit, and all the equipment in it, would fit inside that one backpack is absurd, but I'm willing to suspend belief for that.

Same for the bike and the car. Both rough looking and functional. Possibly evolving as we go into sequels, but it implies that he's still in the process of optimizing his equipment, and figuring out what works.

Clearly he's not (or not yet) the socialite Bruce Wayne, but there's an implication at the end of the movie that he needs to learn to present a social persona in order to implement some good in Gotham using his family's fortune and influence,

For those who have been posting that the mayor's son may be the future Robin, God I hope you're wrong.

Good take. I like this cast, and Reeves' direction. There was a consistent vision here that was well executed. I hope he gets to make another.

I liked The Batman as well. It has it's problems, but there's a lot of good there.

I like the fact that we're seeing Batman in his first two years, still a rough around the edges, with a bit of a kludgy suit, and not totally sure of himself. That moment when he almost falls off the police HQ building for instance, and does the bad landing with the flying suit.

I like how the cape nearly got him killed one time.

I really like the suit. It doesn't look like a rubber doll. It looks functional, and a little sloppy. It actually reminded me a bit of Nite Owl's outfit from Watchmen. I'll have to watch some behind the scenes, but I'm fairly sure he actually wore that suit all the time and it wasn't CGI'd.

The idea that the whole suit, and all the equipment in it, would fit inside that one backpack is absurd, but I'm willing to suspend belief for that.

Same for the bike and the car. Both rough looking and functional. Possibly evolving as we go into sequels, but it implies that he's still in the process of optimizing his equipment, and figuring out what works.

Clearly he's not (or not yet) the socialite Bruce Wayne, but there's an implication at the end of the movie that he needs to learn to present a social persona in order to implement some good in Gotham using his family's fortune and influence,

For those who have been posting that the mayor's son may be the future Robin, God I hope you're wrong.

Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 09:10:

Prez wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 07:03:
...if you show up at a liberal rally armed with a loaded AR-15...

Even just showing up with a loaded weapon is too much. Need to protect yourself? Fine. Go home and wait for the criminals to break your door down. But showing up in public with a loaded weapon, especially a protest whether you agree or disagree with it, tells me you want to shoot someone. Plain and simple.

I rarely share strong opinions anymore because I don't have the mental stamina or the ability to think clearly for very long so defending my position well is almost impossible. but I can agree that it clearly seems to be a logical probability that he went there daring (hoping?) someone would give him an excuse to "fear for his life". Absolutely disgusting. I own guns, and I am disgusted.

Batman remake number one hundred and eighty. Meanwhile Condorman gets zero love.

I saw it on Monday night as a Batman fan, but not a comic book reader. It was very different than the previous movies like Christopher Nolan's. Slower pace, longer, less actions, dark (had to watch it at night after a hour during the daytime) etc. 6/10. Tim Burton's and Christopher Nolan's versions were better. Also, this one was like Fox's Gotham too which was enjoyable. I was hoping to get into it when starting watching Batman Begins. :/ There is also a deleted scene of Joker (also saw this standalone movie on Caturday -- it was OK too [random laughter])! It can be seen on YouTube and HBO Max.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B90ic2iKDo with a crossover with Adam West version!

This comment was edited on Apr 24, 2022, 17:56.

Saying 'because of the constitution' or you 'believe in the constitution', etc., is a not a valid argument. The constitution, due to the amendments (which is usually what one is referring to when talking about the constitution and believing in it) is a "living" document. It can change over time, hence, the amendments. If we passed an new amendment that said "F off to all the other amendments", you are saying you would be fine with that and fully accept it and support it and everything will be great? Because you believe in the constitution, and thus, it is now part of the constitution?

Single category
Unintentional Injury: 7,373

Two categories
Homicide: 3,337
Suicide: 2,817
Homicide+Suicide: 6,154

Homicide, Firearm: 2,801
Suicide, Firearm: 1,293
Total: 4,094

Since homicide and suicide are completely different (and separate categories) and only connected by the use of a "firearm", I don't see why I'd need to use suicide by car as a sub-category. Any combined category that has any connection would suffice. Even so I’ve decided to stick with a single category, therefore I've chosen "Poisoning" a sub-category, it falls under the same category as traffic (Unintentional Injury)
Motor vehicle, traffic + Poisoning = 4,537

As an aside; "Suffocation" under "Suicide" is shockingly high and nearly equal to "firearm".
But saying: "Unintentional Injury was the No. 1 killer of children and adolescents in 2020, CDC data shows" as a headline won't drive the views.

Guns or no guns people have to overcome their mental issues. The idea that you'd want to commit suicide is the problem, not how you'd do it. Issues like these should be addressed long before it comes to anything.

Lady, if your phone falls in a public crapper it's gone. Learn to let go.

China, covid isn't going anywhere so it's a strategy bound for failure.

When it comes to money and hapiness ol' Diamond Dave said it best...."Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it."

I like Pattison but he's not meant for Batman. He isn't remotely big enough for the part. Even Bale had to work like a motherfucker to bulk up for that role. Affleck is the only one who's had the size to do the role justice.

Nofactor97 wrote on Apr 23, 2022, 22:39:
Those of us that believe in the constitution cannot find common ground with your beliefs. All the posters in here prove why we need the 2A. Because without it crazed fanatics like ya'll would exert as much control over someone as you could.

So you better just get used to guns. Without question, the 2A comes with some side affects. Just like the 1st Amendment. Free speech means you have to be able to man up and hear shit you do not like. Or scream "I'm offended" and run into your safe space.

Go read some real statistics about gun deaths instead of reading VOX or solely listening to CNN's biased take. I suggest the FBI website itself if you want some truth. Guns are not the problem. The mental health decline in this nation is the problem, which has been spurned on by nihilistic post applied modernism and critical theory, which victimizes people and results in a white girl being beat senseless because she had dreads as just one example. So much hate being created, by lies and false victim hood. The 2A will be the only thing to keep us safe. Hence the point.

Canada has just as many idiots and loons as your country does and we have 10 million gun owners in a country of 35 million people. We don't have mass shootings every day because we have stringent gun control laws. That's the same with most other countries around the world. If you're going to let any idiot have a gun, carry it, and use it whenever they like you're going to end up like America. No thanks.

Overmann wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 09:47:
Except your link says:
Unintentional Mv Traffic 3,639
Homicide Firearm 2,801

Right. But the study includes firearm suicides as well, and states as much in their document, which adds more than 1200 more deaths to firearms as you can see in the screenshot. Feel free to add motor vehicle suicides to the motor vehicle number, but I suspect the number of people intentionally running themselves over won't be that high.

I am going to use a country who had a horrific past who honestly and gladly teaches the full history of that past to all their kids. Germany does this. Ask a German about how they are taken too and shown the locations where genocide was performed. They are fully educated on the evil that was fascism. You don't read and or hear about Germany having massive cases of suicide over learning of their country's history. You have bought into the false spread of info made by those who want history rewritten in the US. They don't want people to know about slavery,about JIM crow, about the early days of pre-abortion. They don't want folks to be educated properly on homophobic violence and murder. Nope, they want folks to grow up like sheep to be led to political slaughter. And you are one of those who are being led that way. We already lost over 1million fellow Americans and a great many died because they gladly ignored medical science during this pandemic that is not done. And you will gladly get your info from various uneducated sources who do not want what is best for those they profess to educate.

Except your link says:
Unintentional Mv Traffic 3,639
Homicide Firearm 2,801


The article says: "Guns were No. 1 killer of children and adolescents in 2020, CDC data shows"

Here's the cdc site with it filtered to 1-19
https://wisqars.cdc.gov/data/lcd/home

The number 1 killer remains unintentional injury at: 7,373
3,639 being "Motor vehicle, traffic"

The 2nd most is homicide at: 3,337
2,801 being "Firearm".

"It's a myth that someone who is suicidal will always kill themselves no matter what obstacles you put in their way."
Except I said: "that kids do want to take their own lives. It wouldn't change if no one had guns.". Having a loaded gun or a knife doesn't matter. It's the issue with the individual not wanting to live any longer. Hence a mental health issue.

Two Russian Oligarchs and their Families Die in Mysterious Circumstances 24 Hours Apart

I’m sure it had nothing to do with Putin calling for a "self-purification" as an "exodus" of private jets flee Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murder-suicide-1699766

Prez wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 07:03:
...if you show up at a liberal rally armed with a loaded AR-15...

Even just showing up with a loaded weapon is too much. Need to protect yourself? Fine. Go home and wait for the criminals to break your door down. But showing up in public with a loaded weapon, especially a protest whether you agree or disagree with it, tells me you want to shoot someone. Plain and simple.

Overmann wrote on Apr 24, 2022, 08:41:
Funny how the CDC's website doesn't reflect what the article claims.
https://wisqars.cdc.gov/data/lcd/home

Ages
1-4
Drowning

5-9
Motor vehicle, traffic

10-14
Motor vehicle, traffic

15-24
Motor vehicle, traffic

That said the sad fact is, despite violence with guns is at a 30 year low, that kids do want to take their own lives.
It wouldn't change if no one had guns. It is a mental health issue that is exacerbated by social media.

Except, the CDC site _does_ back up what the article says. I used the same site you linked to specify the age range of 1-19 years old, (the range used for the study) included all intentional and unintentional injury, and got the following result.

4094 Firearm homicides/suicides vs. 3639 traffic/motor vehicle related deaths.

With regards to suicide rates not changing if no one had guns, its hard to do an apples-to-apples comparison but that seems unlikely given that people who use guns are vastly more likely to succeed in killing themselves than people who use other methods. It's a myth that someone who is suicidal will always kill themselves no matter what obstacles you put in their way. With a gun you need only experience a moment of weakness. There's no prep time, especially if you have a loaded gun on the other side of the room already.

Funny how the CDC's website doesn't reflect what the article claims.
https://wisqars.cdc.gov/data/lcd/home

Ages
1-4
Drowning

5-9
Motor vehicle, traffic

10-14
Motor vehicle, traffic

15-24
Motor vehicle, traffic

That said the sad fact is, despite violence with guns is at a 30 year low, that kids do want to take their own lives.
It wouldn't change if no one had guns. It is a mental health issue that is exacerbated by social media.

I always find it fun when people accuse anyone of watching CNN. In the same breath, those same people (but not the case here) often gloat about how no one watches CNN (which is accurate), then post "evidence" from a tabloid or a YouTube channel with 100k followers.

I believe in individual rights up to and including gun rights, and for no other reason than it's a freedom that shouldn't be taken away, but the level of zealotry that I have witnessed about guns here in the south is unreal. And a little disturbing. More to the point, if you show up at a liberal rally armed with a loaded AR-15, kill 2 people, then claim you were "in fear for your life" and face no justice whatsoever then fuck the 2nd Amendment; the laws need to change.

Nofactor97 wrote on Apr 23, 2022, 22:39:
Those of us that believe in the constitution cannot find common ground with your beliefs. All the posters in here prove why we need the 2A. Because without it crazed fanatics like ya'll would exert as much control over someone as you could.

So you better just get used to guns. Without question, the 2A comes with some side affects. Just like the 1st Amendment. Free speech means you have to be able to man up and hear shit you do not like. Or scream "I'm offended" and run into your safe space.

Go read some real statistics about gun deaths instead of reading VOX or solely listening to CNN's biased take. I suggest the FBI website itself if you want some truth. Guns are not the problem. The mental health decline in this nation is the problem, which has been spurned on by nihilistic post applied modernism and critical theory, which victimizes people and results in a white girl being beat senseless because she had dreads as just one example. So much hate being created, by lies and false victim hood. The 2A will be the only thing to keep us safe. Hence the point.

And yet, every single other first world nation manages to survive without the second amendment, and with vastly fewer gun deaths. How do they do it? Total mystery!
Here's the Right's total hypocrisy on cases like Heller: the Founding Fathers clearly intended the right to bear arms in the context of belonging to a militia. Says so right in the constitution. But we have the Heller case: "The constitution guarantees the right to bear arms for all citizens!" And yet, i (easily) cannot get a fully automatic weapon, or a grenade launcher, or a Stinger, or a nuclear weapon. So the court doesn't actually believe in the "shall not be infringed" part, or else I'd be able to go to Walmart and buy a Carl Gustav with 50 rounds of various types to protect my property. Instead we have a ruling not based on the constitution, but rather based on their personal feelings and ideology.