Another Steam CCU Record

The Steam Game and Player Statistics Page reflects another new concurrent user record (thanks SteamDB). This comes shortly after Steam passed 28 million simultaneous users for the first time. At that time Steam reported 28,230,661 concurrent users. The new record now stands at 29,198,370.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 23:03
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 23:03
Jan 25, 2022, 23:03
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 25, 2022, 16:44:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Jan 25, 2022, 11:33:
Well, whatever suits y'all best it's fine.
... ... ...

Yeah. I see a game that interests me, and it goes into my Wishlist until some future date where it's crazy cheap. I have 1,891. Of that amount, only El Hijo - A Wild West Tale and Jetboard Joust match the 75% or more discount today. I've only ever paid full price for a few launch titles.

You and I are at a state where Steam provides pretty good recommendations. In years, I have not needed to look up a "top 10" article or watch some random YouTube video to find video game buy offers. All thanks to a trained and more intelligent algorithm. 🙂👍
Yes Kxmode, also the Steam play next algorithm suggesting games in my inventory works famously.
What Mr. Tact, RedEye9, etc, fail to see clearly is the amount of vivid pleasure others so disposed can derive from the art of the games.
Visual art balance and then world building are the motor behind my choices.
There must be a certain gelstat of forms and shades. A few looks suffice to decide and confirm a choice.
One look can exclude a game outright in disgust.
And even the humblest of the games I choose have consistently given me a rewarding time.

Beware of El Hijo A Wild West Tale, seems it's rife with game-breaking bugs.
Maybe they will be addressed, but for now I passed.

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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 16:44
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 16:44
Jan 25, 2022, 16:44
 Kxmode
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Jan 25, 2022, 11:33:
Well, whatever suits y'all best it's fine.

But it's a matter of interests. To me, liked games are literal joys to treasure, and revisit in time, if able.

I wishlist dozens, waiting patiently for lower prices or sales, for months (or years! no hurry).
I could buy them all outright without feeling it at all, but monkly frugality, etc.
When you were almost destitute as a child you never totally cease to be it.

Just will say that motivated by Kxmode mention of ignoring, I began to do that systematically (some 17900 so far).
The benefits are enormous:
By the enhanced focus you have to apply I found and bought hundreds of games otherwise lost to me.
Till now, when less and less remain to be found, barring novelties and price cuttings.


Yeah. I see a game that interests me, and it goes into my Wishlist until some future date where it's crazy cheap. I have 1,891. Of that amount, only El Hijo - A Wild West Tale and Jetboard Joust match the 75% or more discount today. I've only ever paid full price for a few launch titles.

You and I are at a state where Steam provides pretty good recommendations. In years, I have not needed to look up a "top 10" article or watch some random YouTube video to find video game buy offers. All thanks to a trained and more intelligent algorithm. 🙂👍
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 11:33
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 11:33
Jan 25, 2022, 11:33
 
Well, whatever suits y'all best it's fine.

But it's a matter of interests. To me, liked games are literal joys to treasure, and revisit in time, if able.

I wishlist dozens, waiting patiently for lower prices or sales, for months (or years! no hurry).
I could buy them all outright without feeling it at all, but monkly frugality, etc.
When you were almost destitute as a child you never totally cease to be it.

Just will say that motivated by Kxmode mention of ignoring, I began to do that systematically (some 17900 so far).
The benefits are enormous:
By the enhanced focus you have to apply I found and bought hundreds of games otherwise lost to me.
Till now, when less and less remain to be found, barring novelties and price cuttings.

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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 08:13
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 08:13
Jan 25, 2022, 08:13
 
Sepharo wrote on Jan 25, 2022, 01:19:
What's silly about them? Seemed like more of a personal preference thing.
Personal preferences can't be silly? I'm pretty sure I have some personal preferences some people would think were silly.

Do you care that Steam has a bunch of garbage on it? I'd guess no, since you don't browse on Steam but rather prefer to just directly make a purchase you already have in mind (which is usually how I do it as well).
And given that's the case, why would you care about the recommendation algo?
Not really. I occasionally glance at recommended games during sales and such. But mostly I am scanning for games I know. So, more of a chance to see something and go, "Oh yeah, I have time for that now" or "Oh, good price!".

I've never used the ignore functionality myself, but the recommendations come from the games I've played and the games my friends have played mostly I'd assume.
Yep. Hence it would be silly for you to use the ignore function and scan random game lists, right?
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 01:19
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 01:19
Jan 25, 2022, 01:19
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 25, 2022, 01:14:
My angle? I have no angle. I am simply responding to silly statements.
What's silly about them? Seemed like more of a personal preference thing.

Do you care that Steam has a bunch of garbage on it? I'd guess no, since you don't browse on Steam but rather prefer to just directly make a purchase you already have in mind (which is usually how I do it as well).
And given that's the case, why would you care about the recommendation algo?
I've never used the ignore functionality myself, but the recommendations come from the games I've played and the games my friends have played mostly I'd assume.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 25, 2022, 01:14
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 25, 2022, 01:14
Jan 25, 2022, 01:14
 
My angle? I have no angle. I am simply responding to silly statements.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 21:33
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 21:33
Jan 24, 2022, 21:33
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 21:06:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 21:01:
It doesn't take 22k. I started noticing a difference at around 500 ignores, which was a decade ago. Pretty confident Valve has added a lot more intelligence that kicks in at less (~200 ignores).
I don't waste time scrolling through a list of games I know nothing about. You however should feel free to continue to do so.

What's your angle on this?
I think this particular discussion kicked off when WannaLogAlready said that Steam having tons of garbage games in the store was detrimental.
But that particular thing wouldn't affect you as a person who doesn't browse... like I said in my post, I don't usually either. But in the past 2 years or so I have actually bought some games that I was only aware of through Steam itself. I didn't actively go looking, but whatever the recommendation algo put in front of my face was a successful sale for them on those occasions.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 21:09
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 21:09
Jan 24, 2022, 21:09
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 21:06:
I don't waste time scrolling through a list of games I know nothing about.
This
A thousand times this.

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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 21:06
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 21:06
Jan 24, 2022, 21:06
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 21:01:
It doesn't take 22k. I started noticing a difference at around 500 ignores, which was a decade ago. Pretty confident Valve has added a lot more intelligence that kicks in at less (~200 ignores).
I don't waste time scrolling through a list of games I know nothing about. You however should feel free to continue to do so.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 21:04
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 21:04
Jan 24, 2022, 21:04
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 20:50:
Then you might be the equivalent of a shopper at Fry's who picks up a game from that long checkout aisle because it's there.
I am the exact opposite of that. You do realize this is a game website, right? I don't buy a game until I know a fair amount about it and I am reasonably certain I will enjoy it. Once that happens, I buy it.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 21:01
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 21:01
Jan 24, 2022, 21:01
 Kxmode
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:38:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:34:
People appear too lazy to use Steam's ignore feature (I have 21,986 ignored). If nothing ever gets ignored, Steam's algorithm never trains to show less trash. I don't see that much trash anymore.
I'm going to assume you are correct. But seeing as I doubt I have ever even looked at 1,000 games, bothering to ignore 22k of them seems like way too much of an effort...
It doesn't take 22k. I started noticing a difference at around 500 ignores, which was a decade ago. Pretty confident Valve has added a lot more intelligence that kicks in at less (~200 ignores).
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 20:55
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 20:55
Jan 24, 2022, 20:55
 Kxmode
 
Sepharo wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:44:
I've found the various Steam recommendation strategies (featured, front page, queue/feed, might be interested in, etc. etc.) to be more helpful than I would have thought.
I've previously said I don't browse, that that's not the way I learn about games that I want to buy... but lately I actually have been turning more that direction, so I guess whatever they're doing is working.
Yup. I was in the same boat of seeing a lot of trash recommendations sometime around 2010/11. Then I started ignoring games on a whim, and after ~500 started noticing less. That's when it hit me that Valve implemented "Bayesian filtering" for their catalog that becomes more intelligent the more training it receives. I can't be one-hundred percent sure that's what it is, but it closely mimics it.
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 20:50
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 20:50
Jan 24, 2022, 20:50
 Kxmode
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:46:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:42:
That's the same effort it takes to Wishlist something.
Something else I have never done...
Then you might be the equivalent of a shopper at Fry's who picks up a game from that long checkout aisle because it's there. I wishlist and ignore, so there are fewer of those types of games. I used to "follow" games but found that it doesn't work as well as a hard "YES" or "NO" (Wishlist and Ignore, respectively). It's all about teaching Steam how to become more intelligent for you.
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:46
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:46
Jan 24, 2022, 19:46
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:42:
That's the same effort it takes to Wishlist something.
Something else I have never done...
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:44
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:44
Jan 24, 2022, 19:44
 
I've found the various Steam recommendation strategies (featured, front page, queue/feed, might be interested in, etc. etc.) to be more helpful than I would have thought.
I've previously said I don't browse, that that's not the way I learn about games that I want to buy... but lately I actually have been turning more that direction, so I guess whatever they're doing is working.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:42
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:42
Jan 24, 2022, 19:42
 Kxmode
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:38:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:34:
People appear too lazy to use Steam's ignore feature (I have 21,986 ignored). If nothing ever gets ignored, Steam's algorithm never trains to show less trash. I don't see that much trash anymore.
I'm going to assume you are correct. But seeing as I doubt I have ever even looked at 1,000 games, bothering to ignore 22k of them seems like way too much of an effort...
People spend more time looking at the game's name, screenshots/movies, info, description, rating, and a couple of reviews. It takes a second to click the "Ignore" button. But they have to put forth "the effort" to do that. That's the same effort it takes to Wishlist something.
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:38
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:38
Jan 24, 2022, 19:38
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 19:34:
People appear too lazy to use Steam's ignore feature (I have 21,986 ignored). If nothing ever gets ignored, Steam's algorithm never trains to show less trash. I don't see that much trash anymore.
I'm going to assume you are correct. But seeing as I doubt I have ever even looked at 1,000 games, bothering to ignore 22k of them seems like way too much of an effort...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:34
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:34
Jan 24, 2022, 19:34
 Kxmode
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 11:20:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 10:23:
Paragon of Virtue wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 03:51:
but Steam is not the best gaming platform around anymore.
Gotta ask, what is then? As Tom said, it ain't perfect but it is still the best option.

Yeah, the complaints people are bringing up here involve navigating huge amounts of crap, and I've yet to see a single digital storefront that allows a wide selection but is easy to navigate. Valve hasn't figured it out, but with even more resources, neither have Apple or Google. Both their stores are actually much, much, much worse than Steam, at that.
People appear too lazy to use Steam's ignore feature (I have 21,986 ignored). If nothing ever gets ignored, Steam's algorithm never trains itself to show less trash. I don't see that much trash anymore.
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 19:26
Kxmode
 
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 19:26
Jan 24, 2022, 19:26
 Kxmode
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 11:18:
Kxmode wrote on Jan 23, 2022, 20:02:
Love it. Another 967,709 told Epic, "Nah."

It's weird how you don't realize that most people are capable of using both.
You're looking way too much into my comment. It's pretty simple. If a person plays a game on Steam, they are likely not playing one on EGS and visa verse. Hence the new concurrent user record. Thus, "Another 967,709 told Epic, 'Nah.'"

The rest of your comment isn't worth my time, and borders on breaking at least one forum rule. I'll let you figure out which. Please don't tell me which, I don't care.

This comment was edited on Jan 24, 2022, 19:38.
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record
Jan 24, 2022, 11:20
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Re: Another Steam CCU Record Jan 24, 2022, 11:20
Jan 24, 2022, 11:20
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 10:23:
Paragon of Virtue wrote on Jan 24, 2022, 03:51:
but Steam is not the best gaming platform around anymore.
Gotta ask, what is then? As Tom said, it ain't perfect but it is still the best option.

Yeah, the complaints people are bringing up here involve navigating huge amounts of crap, and I've yet to see a single digital storefront that allows a wide selection but is easy to navigate. Valve hasn't figured it out, but with even more resources, neither have Apple or Google. Both their stores are actually much, much, much worse than Steam, at that.
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