Burrito of Peace wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 22:57:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
2) By serendipity or design, many recent shows take place in pandemics: The Stand...

Quick point of order, The Stand is not recent. The reboot is recent and it sucked. The 1994 original was better in every conceivable way.

Well, sure. I read the novel in the 80s, and saw the miniseries when it broadcast in the 90s (?). So the story isn't new, but the most recent series was made a year ago. That's all I was referring to.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
2) By serendipity or design, many recent shows take place in pandemics: The Stand...

Quick point of order, The Stand is not recent. The reboot is recent and it sucked. The 1994 original was better in every conceivable way.

RedEye9 wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 18:33:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 18:03:

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:50:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.

I have that recorded, but haven't gotten around to watching it. How would you rate it overall?

It's fantastic, but it's also one of the darkest and most intense films I've ever seen.

Where does my favorite xmas movie, Children of Men, fit into the post-apocalyptic scene?

One of my favs as well. I think from a plausibility perspective they got a lot right, even if the key premise of the movie (zero children being born) is perhaps a bit far-fetched. But I give them a pass on that, because like Y they're really more interested in how humanity might deal with that situation than the actual unfolding of said situation itself. Also, they don't deal directly with it, the movie takes place decades after it occurs, so you're kind of left on your own to imagine how it happens. Smart filmmaking.

He's innocent and his wife told lies after being tortured by the deep state in a pizza parlor. https://www.yahoo.com/news/estranged-wife-indicted-leader-oath-163420533.html
So many sociopaths, so little time.

1badmf wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 18:38:
dude was a certifiable sociopath

Many successful corporate types display numerous behaviors which score high on the sociopathic scale. Don't get me wrong, I think Shkreli is an immoral POS who deserves anything and everything that happens to him in prison (I hope the list is long). Just pointing out, some of his behaviors are not uncommon...

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:36:

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 14:18:
He still has $64m?! How much will he have after paying that?

When you take a $5 lifesaving drug and start charging $700 for it, you tend to make a lot of money.

dude was a certifiable sociopath and belongs in prison for a long long time. i'm curious if anyone's ever done statistical modelling of how many people he killed by pricing the drug out of reach of people who needed it.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 18:03:

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:50:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.

I have that recorded, but haven't gotten around to watching it. How would you rate it overall?

It's fantastic, but it's also one of the darkest and most intense films I've ever seen.

Where does my favorite xmas movie, Children of Men, fit into the post-apocalyptic scene?

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:50:

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.

I have that recorded, but haven't gotten around to watching it. How would you rate it overall?

It's fantastic, but it's also one of the darkest and most intense films I've ever seen.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.

I have that recorded, but haven't gotten around to watching it. How would you rate it overall?

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:34:
The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.
/rant.

Haven't seen Station 11 but I'll keep an eye out. A flu pandemic doesn't sound all that deadly - compared to PA flicks like The Omega Man. The Road was brutal AF. First PA film that does a good job of showing the immediate aftermath. I haven't seen it since it came out, I'll need to rewatch it soon. I've always like The Book of Eli too. Not very realistic but still an enjoyable film in the genre. Anything with Gary Oldman in it is good.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 17:36:

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 14:18:
He still has $64m?! How much will he have after paying that?

When you take a $5 lifesaving drug and start charging $700 for it, you tend to make a lot of money.

Yes, I realize. I just figured he already had been forced to cough up the money, or had spent it. Like the buying the Wu-Tang Clan album for $2 million.

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2022, 14:18:
He still has $64m?! How much will he have after paying that?

When you take a $5 lifesaving drug and start charging $700 for it, you tend to make a lot of money.

I'm watching Station Eleven right now, and I had a couple of thoughts the other day:

1) We live in a golden age of TV right now (old news, yes), but not just for actors. SE stars A-listers like MacKenzie Davis (BR 2049, Terminator DF) and Himesh Patel (Tenet), and they're obviously having a blast with tons of screen time in these juicy roles in off-beat stories with movie-like production values. However, directors are also getting into the TV action: Taika Watiti directed episodes of The Mandalorian, David Fincher Mind Hunters, James Gunn Peacemaker, Tim Burton Wednesday, and others. It's just interesting that TV, which was such a wasteland in the 1980s, has blossomed into basically the premier storytelling medium and attracting the talent at all levels to continue to improve it.

2) By serendipity or design, many recent shows take place in pandemics: The Stand, Station Eleven, Y The Last Man. Living through a pandemic makes me realize how wrong a lot of these shows get it. Some shows aren't really interested in the unfolding of the pandemic itself, but rather the aftermath, for example Y The Last Man. I kind of gave it a pass for their ridiculous portrayal of the pandemic, since it was so obvious they wanted to rush past it to explore the aftermath. And I thought Y did a pretty good job portraying the aftermath, even though the character of Y himself was such an idiot that I had to quit the show in disgust (kudos to that actor though. He was convincing). Station Eleven on the other hand seems wayyy to optimistic. People actually taking the pandemic seriously during the first 24 hours that it is breaking out? We know from experience nobody reacts like that. As for the aftermath: the show seems unrealistic about what might happen if 99% of the population got wiped out in the US. I highly doubt people would be able to freely move about, rather humanity will have holed up in a few heavily armed enclaves ruled by warlords. Disease and starvation would likely be rampant after such a societal collapse. The Road is a much better portrayal in this regard.
/rant.

Sorry it is so cold for you guys.
Down here: the past few days I've felt like that disgusting wet sponge at the post office people use to wet their stamps. Yep, pretty humid at times.

Doesn't help that we don't have air conditioning.

I'm watching The Tragedy of Macbeth and realized I don't Shakespeare.
The following helped.

https://www.litcharts.com/shakescleare/shakespeare-translations/macbeth
https://nosweatshakespeare.com/plays/modern-macbeth/

Yeah it was -22C last night. It's -14C atm. Warms up for the next few days though but back to a cold snap next weekend. Bring on the footsballs!

He still has $64m?! How much will he have after paying that?

The court has done what every American wanted to do, punch shreckelly square in the face.
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Mongo Like the smell of those beans.