When to Expect Star Citizen and Squadron 42... and Sequels?

MCV Develop 974, dated January 2022 has a profile of Cloud Imperium Games and the Star Citizen/Squadron 42 project. The title of the article on the crowdfunded space games is called "Star Citizen: Its Five Year Mission." Obviously this is a play on Star Trek, but it bears noting that development has gone on for well over five years now (as well as longer than the Apollo moon project). And as highlighted on Wccftech, the waiting will continue, as there are quotes that indicate Star Citizen is not likely to move out of the alpha stage anytime soon. Interestingly, however, COO Carl Jones is also already referencing sequels. Word on the single-player Squadron 42 project is tough to decipher. Jones is non-committal, but seems to indicate Chris Roberts relocating to the UK for a stretch means it's possibly just two years out. "I guess we'll see how long he needs to be over. But yeah, it could be one or two years more," says Jones. "He's spending more time over here with the Squadron 42 team and with our other developers, but it'll be this year when he moves over for longer periods of time. Hopefully that means we can progress Squadron 42 through to completion faster. We want to get that game finished, but it will be finished when it's ready." As for Star Citizen, we're presented with a scenario where five years from now it is operating as a "very large" MMORPG:
However, the news last November that CIG's main development studio in Cheshire would be moving to Manchester's Enterprise City, site of the old Grenada Studios, with a view to expanding operations to 1000 staff within five years, seemed to suggest that while we may never know where Star Citizen will end up or what state it will be in when it gets there, we can at least put an ETA to what that that might be: Five years from now, if our maths is correct, is the year 2027.

"I think by that time we'll be operating a very large MMORPG," says Carl Jones, CEO of Cloud Imperium Games. "So there will be a lot more publishing resources, a lot more games masters, more player support. That may require us to open facilities in other locations. At the moment we don't have any major Asia Pacific presence and that's probably something that will have to come in the long run, because if your game explodes over there, then you really need to start building up teams to service that. Jones suggests while the potential to expand the new Manchester studio beyond its planned 1000-person capacity exists, the world is practically CIG's oyster. It might be Europe or the US that CIG heads to next period the point is that CIG will increasingly resemble an online publisher, "we'll still have huge development resources, because by that time will be developing the sequel and sequels for Squadron 42."
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Re: When to Expect Star Citizen
Jan 13, 2022, 18:55
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Wilhuf wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 18:33:
*throws wine glass*
What is Star Citizen?
A miserable little
pile of lies.
*gasp* "You've ruined a perfect glass of chardonnay, Charlotte!"
"The present is a veil between anticipation and horror. Lift the veil... and madness may follow." source
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Re: When to Expect Star Citizen
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Jan 13, 2022, 18:33
 Wilhuf
 
*throws wine glass*
What is Star Citizen?
A miserable little
pile of lies.
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Jan 13, 2022, 15:04
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Scheherazade wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 13:34:
sc is cpu bound.

1080 with a 3950 cpu beats a 3090 with a 2950 cpu - at 1440p

iirc the renderer is thread limited (2 threads iirc???), and so it heavily depends on raw cpu core performance.

as of a few months ago, when i last checked in on it***
Yeah, it's part of the Gen12 renderer rework. But for now the game runs appallingly, even on high end systems.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
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Jan 13, 2022, 15:03
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asmodeos wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 14:42:
Star Citizen allows me to get out of a virtual bed, go to my space ship, leave the hangar, the planet, travel to another, land, get out of my ship. Load some cargo on the ship. That is physically put a box from the new planet on my ship. Not just an inventory menu! Fly back to my apartment. No loading or interruption whatsoever. That is incredible.

The game runs well on my RTX 3080, i9 10900k, 32GB system. It’s an experience.

Apart from the moving a digital representation of a box that you can physically move as it were and prettier graphics, welcome to Empyrion Galactic Survival (among many other survival games out there). A game where you can do all that, while building your own ships, bases, go mining, farm food etc..

I saw that they added in a new Grav Beam Tool to move the cargo faster. Perhaps they realized people would get bored with playing a space delievery man that has to unload all the boxes by hand all the time.
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Jan 13, 2022, 14:42
 
Star Citizen allows me to get out of a virtual bed, go to my space ship, leave the hangar, the planet, travel to another, land, get out of my ship. Load some cargo on the ship. That is physically put a box from the new planet on my ship. Not just an inventory menu! Fly back to my apartment. No loading or interruption whatsoever. That is incredible.

The game runs well on my RTX 3080, i9 10900k, 32GB system. It’s an experience.
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theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 11:11:
asmodeos wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 08:39:
Star Citizen is a pretty epic technological experience. I have a very high end machine and it would be a disservice to not play around with star citizen on it.
A pretty AWFUL technological experience, sure. Even with an RTX 3080, I get framerates in the single digits at Orison and it probably averages about 20fps there.

sc is cpu bound.

1080 with a 3950 cpu beats a 3090 with a 2950 cpu - at 1440p

iirc the renderer is thread limited (2 threads iirc???), and so it heavily depends on raw cpu core performance.

as of a few months ago, when i last checked in on it***

-scheherazade
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Jan 13, 2022, 13:30
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Dash wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:31:
crazedgironemo wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:01:
Razumen wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 20:01:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 19:40:
I think by that time we'll be operating a very large MMORPG

The reason this worked for Blizzard is that they had 10 million or so people paying $15 for WoW. Is SC going to start charging a monthly fee?

Many successful MMOs have operated on the buy once, support through microtransactions model. Many you don't even need to buy.
Is $40,000 still considered a microtransaction? cause the Legatus Pack 2951 costs that much now...

Some people have more money than common sense, I guess.

and the average person seeing a quarter on the ground is like bill gates seeing 50'000 dollars on he ground.

some people just have fuck you money.

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asmodeos wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 08:39:
Star Citizen is a pretty epic technological experience. I have a very high end machine and it would be a disservice to not play around with star citizen on it. It’s a long term thing, like DCS and il2. I’m happy with what it is and it’s great that more keeps coming out.
Whatever drugs you are taking, stockpile as much as possible. That is some good stuff. nice troll BTW
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asmodeos wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 08:39:
Star Citizen is a pretty epic technological experience. I have a very high end machine and it would be a disservice to not play around with star citizen on it.
A pretty AWFUL technological experience, sure. Even with an RTX 3080, I get framerates in the single digits at Orison and it probably averages about 20fps there.
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If people keep paying and paying there is less incentive to finish the game. Chris created a new business model where development never ends as long as new money keeps rolling in. "Pay to develop" model. They only stop development once people stop paying.
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Dash wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:31:
crazedgironemo wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:01:
Razumen wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 20:01:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 19:40:
I think by that time we'll be operating a very large MMORPG

The reason this worked for Blizzard is that they had 10 million or so people paying $15 for WoW. Is SC going to start charging a monthly fee?

Many successful MMOs have operated on the buy once, support through microtransactions model. Many you don't even need to buy.
Is $40,000 still considered a microtransaction? cause the Legatus Pack 2951 costs that much now...

Some people have more money than common sense, I guess.
I know someone IRL that spent thousands on this game.
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asmodeos wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 08:39:
Star Citizen is a pretty epic technological experience. I have a very high end machine and it would be a disservice to not play around with star citizen on it. It’s a long term thing, like DCS and il2.

It's nothing like DCS and IL2. As someone who plays both regularly and has tried the alpha just for kicks, comparing it to those two great games\simulations is doing them a huge disservice.
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YurtFreak wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 09:02:
I would very much like to enjoy some of whatever the hell Carl Jones is smoking.

It's crack cocaine. Wrapped in blunts made from 100$ bills earned from their "backers" and "supporters". And he is smoking it all the way to the bank.
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I would very much like to enjoy some of whatever the hell Carl Jones is smoking.
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Star Citizen is a pretty epic technological experience. I have a very high end machine and it would be a disservice to not play around with star citizen on it. It’s a long term thing, like DCS and il2. I’m happy with what it is and it’s great that more keeps coming out.
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Jan 13, 2022, 07:42
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Deal Gossip Popcorn

Right around the corner, any day now ....
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Jan 13, 2022, 07:16
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Hahaha damn Blue you are brutal, comparing it to the moon project.

Squadron 42 or one of its hopeful sequels better be as good as Starlancer was.
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Dash wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:31:
crazedgironemo wrote on Jan 13, 2022, 00:01:
Razumen wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 20:01:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2022, 19:40:
I think by that time we'll be operating a very large MMORPG

The reason this worked for Blizzard is that they had 10 million or so people paying $15 for WoW. Is SC going to start charging a monthly fee?

Many successful MMOs have operated on the buy once, support through microtransactions model. Many you don't even need to buy.
Is $40,000 still considered a microtransaction? cause the Legatus Pack 2951 costs that much now...

Some people have more money than common sense, I guess.

If they spent it all on this pseudo-mmo, then they have neither
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Jan 13, 2022, 02:31
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There are only two correct responses to this news coming out of CIG: Righteous indignation and anger, or bemused bewilderment. The fact that these fuckers have done fuck-all in all this time with SQ42, tells me all I need to know about the people who work there and the people in charge. They should be charged with fraud, and most of them should be sent to jail.
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Jan 13, 2022, 02:11
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Chris explicitly said Star Citizen would not be an MMO but a dynamic experience where people can toggle multiplayer. He said the environment would dynamically scale in NPCs to compensate for the absence of live players. It's also impossible to have SC be an MMO. No hardware (both on the servers and clients) can handle that level of detailed geometry and physics at large scales. EVE Online is an excellent example of what happens, and those ship models are infinitely less complex than SC ships. Further, this game makes more money in perpetual early access. lol
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