So what does everybody figure... 3 years tops? Or will it crash and burn in under 8 months.

EricFate wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 13:16:
So what does everybody figure... 3 years tops? Or will it crash and burn in under 8 months.

That could be said about any startup

Who wants to bet their first game will be a FPS?

EricFate wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 13:16:
So what does everybody figure... 3 years tops? Or will it crash and burn in under 8 months.

Yes to all the above.

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

"Fake it until you make it" is in full effect here.

Hey at least all three of the founders have experience working in development studios making MP FPS... that's a good sign.
But yeah, shit is hard. Good luck to them.

EricFate wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 13:16:
So what does everybody figure... 3 years tops? Or will it crash and burn in under 8 months.

You mean like how the odds are for literally every start up? Especially video game studios?

Just throwing money at game design is a great way to learn making games is hard (and lose your money). Probably would be a better strategy to just start small / get a concept going and involve the early user base a lot, than feel like have to say it is gonna be AAA best game evar from the start.

It has been a while, so I kinda forget if the story of Law Breakers is one of not listening to anyone or just listening to an extremely small group. The end result though was definitely making about 200 people real happy and everyone else saying no thanks.

Anywhoo, making games for influencers seems silly to me, but people also still buy useless skins and XP packs, so what do I know...wacky times.

Not sure if the Doc understands how much time and money is involved in making a AAA Battle Royale experience (assuming that's what he's making since that's what he plays) but it's going to take years to get it right. Anyway wish him the best or whatever and hope he comes out with a great product.

milspecmonkey wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 18:16:
Just throwing money at game design is a great way to learn making games is hard (and lose your money). Probably would be a better strategy to just start small / get a concept going and involve the early user base a lot, than feel like have to say it is gonna be AAA best game evar from the start.

It has been a while, so I kinda forget if the story of Law Breakers is one of not listening to anyone or just listening to an extremely small group. The end result though was definitely making about 200 people real happy and everyone else saying no thanks.

Anywhoo, making games for influencers seems silly to me, but people also still buy useless skins and XP packs, so what do I know...wacky times.

The timing was terrible for Law Breakers as well, with Overwatch, PUBG, and several other high profile FPSs coming out or rising in popularity at the time.

So after he got banned from Twitch, how long before we hear stories of sexual harassment at the company?

The Half Elf wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 22:28:
So after he got banned from Twitch, how long before we hear stories of sexual harassment at the company?

There was sexual harassment stories from Twitch?
He's currently suing Twitch

People love to hate on the Doc, but so many forget that he's just an alter-ego. A made up persona. A crass misogynist? Yeah, sure. But a MADE UP one. The Doc, doesn't really exist outside of our imagination. This is as much a marketing and publicity stunt as anything else. It doesn't matter if this crashes and burns, or produces no games.

VaranDragon wrote on Dec 16, 2021, 02:39:
People love to hate on the Doc, but so many forget that he's just an alter-ego. A made up persona. A crass misogynist? Yeah, sure. But a MADE UP one. The Doc, doesn't really exist outside of our imagination. This is as much a marketing and publicity stunt as anything else. It doesn't matter if this crashes and burns, or produces no games.

So a made up person shouldn't subscribe to the same rules as everyone else? just saaaaaaayin........

The Half Elf wrote on Dec 16, 2021, 04:00:

VaranDragon wrote on Dec 16, 2021, 02:39:
People love to hate on the Doc, but so many forget that he's just an alter-ego. A made up persona. A crass misogynist? Yeah, sure. But a MADE UP one. The Doc, doesn't really exist outside of our imagination. This is as much a marketing and publicity stunt as anything else. It doesn't matter if this crashes and burns, or produces no games.

So a made up person shouldn't subscribe to the same rules as everyone else? just saaaaaaayin........

You mean like Ali-G? Or Borat? Not sure what you're saying here, but people should ideally try and differentiate between fantasy and reality before anything else really.

The Half Elf wrote on Dec 16, 2021, 04:00:

VaranDragon wrote on Dec 16, 2021, 02:39:
People love to hate on the Doc, but so many forget that he's just an alter-ego. A made up persona. A crass misogynist? Yeah, sure. But a MADE UP one. The Doc, doesn't really exist outside of our imagination. This is as much a marketing and publicity stunt as anything else. It doesn't matter if this crashes and burns, or produces no games.

So a made up person shouldn't subscribe to the same rules as everyone else? just saaaaaaayin........

Are you making up offenses for the guy?

Lets all watch as a professional Eddy Haskel finds out that making movies is a tad bit harder than swearing and pandering to a cult following of grade school kids who want to think they are edgy and rebel against Mommy.

phinn wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 18:18:
Not sure if the Doc understands how much time and money is involved in making a AAA Battle Royale experience (assuming that's what he's making since that's what he plays) but it's going to take years to get it right. Anyway wish him the best or whatever and hope he comes out with a great product.

Maybe thats not what they want to make.

Maybe they have a new idea or more of a small strategic shooter.

The Half Elf wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 22:28:
So after he got banned from Twitch, how long before we hear stories of sexual harassment at the company?

Why aren't you specifying what you're talking about. There has not even been a hint he's been involved in any kind of sexual harassment. You seem overly occupied with trying every angle of negativity towards the streamer.