S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Getting Blockchain Items

GSC Game World announces it is also doing the blockchain thing, announcing the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Metaverse, a marketplace for unique items for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chernobyl, the slightly overdue shooter sequel. GSC has never been stellar at handling real money, so maybe virtual transactions will work out better. Word is the first drop will involve the opportunity to play as an NPC (as contradictory as that sounds). This will be followed by more a secretive second release. In any event they promise these blockchain items will not effect gameplay:
Beginning in December 2021, users may register for item drops that will evolve into a new gaming feature built on top of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. The first drop will take place via auction and is scheduled for January, 2022. As part of the drop series, the first-ever metahuman will be released and exposed to hundreds of millions of gamers worldwide. In-game, the metahuman will appear as an 'NPC', or a non-playable character. The face of the real owner will be recreated in the game by using photogrammetry technology, resulting in the highest possible level of realism.

The second drop will follow in February with the highly secretive genesis packs. The next drops will be announced on Twitter and Discord.

To add, any S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2-related drops won't influence the gameplay itself or give in-game advantages over other players.
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Anyone else feeling queasy?
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Re: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Getting Blockchain Items Dec 15, 2021, 12:56
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And there goes any interest I had in this game.
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Someone want to dumb it down for me (waaaay down please).
I've heard of Blockchains, I've heard of NFT's, so what is blockchain gaming, and how do NFT's differ from any sort of account type items or say the system Team Fortress 2 uses?
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That Twitter thread is comedy gold.

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Helf, a very simple explanation:

Account type items are things that are "owned" by the account holder (permanence/impermanence debate about digital "goods" aside) so you can apply them to...whatever.

An NFT is...you buying the receipt to something. You own the receipt that says you own the actual receipt but not the actual thing itself. That's where the "non-fungible" part comes in on an NFT. You can sell the receipt to someone else and the chain of custody is stored an in allegedly immutable ledger aka "blockchain". However, the actual thing never comes in to your possession, just the receipt.

Yes, it is as ridiculously stupid as it sounds. It's the modern version of Dutch tulip mania.

This comment was edited on Dec 15, 2021, 14:51.
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The outrage over re-named DLCs.

lol.
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Rhialto wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 12:55:
You are not alone... https://twitter.com/stalker_thegame/status/1471148058708791308

Oh, Steam forums are lighting it up too. this is not going the way the devs hoped it would. They better do some real soul searching and rethink this, or it will be the end of this game. The sales will plummet and pirating this game will take on a whole new meaning.
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The Half Elf wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 13:20:
Someone want to dumb it down for me (waaaay down please).
I've heard of Blockchains, I've heard of NFT's, so what is blockchain gaming, and how do NFT's differ from any sort of account type items or say the system Team Fortress 2 uses?

It really just comes down to "proof of ownership" of a digital item or artifact. Since blockchain is "theoretically" an immutable, decentralized electronic ledger, you will be able to show proof that you've paid for an item via transaction. Think of it like trading cards. The value of trading cards can go up and down, and if you have an original version of the card, you can sell it for a price based on its worth (which typically fluctuates). But the difference here is we're talking about digital vs material. Material items are a bit more difficult to copy (counterfeit) and try to sell, and depending on its value, you could get into serious legal issues. As for digital items, you'll clearly be able to make as many copies as you want by right clicking on the file and selecting copy then paste lol! But the difference here is that the blockchain (you know, the tamper-proof electronic ledger) contains the proof of ownership.

The silly things that they don't usually talk about is that a person who created this digital item can hold a copyright even if you've purchased the item. Also, the blockchain code is owned by a developer, so they can do what they want with it. For example, there was a really nasty bug with the Ethereum blockchain, so the code owner forked the code, fixed the defect, then redeployed. This in turn broke that chain of the original blockchain. So when they say that a blockchain is decentralized, it really isn't. Not only that, a large corporation with a lot of $$ could easily control 51% of the nodes on the blockchain. This could result (theoretically) in a 51% attack. However, you're limited to what you can do, but there have been instances where you could exploit the "proof-of-work" consensus and double-spend. It might not be so easy to do this with something as widespread as bitcoin and Ethereum blockchains, but smaller networks are definitely much easier targets (i.e. less nodes).
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 13:49:
That Twitter thread is comedy gold.
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qft
Not one single positive tweet.
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how to fuck up in three simple letters. Incredible
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Darks wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 14:43:
Rhialto wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 12:55:
You are not alone... https://twitter.com/stalker_thegame/status/1471148058708791308

Oh, Steam forums are lighting it up too. this is not going the way the devs hoped it would. They better do some real soul searching and rethink this, or it will be the end of this game. The sales will plummet and pirating this game will take on a whole new meaning.

Come on guys, its just for cosmetics! At least, for now anyway. The new loot boxes I suppose.

From the CM "SuperProphet" on the Steam forums:

"I can understand all the disappointment. That's why I'm here, checking the comments and reading all the arguments. At the moment, I'm trying to point out a few things:

- we are not breaking the Steam rules cause we are not a blockchain-based game
- the stuff you may choose is only cosmetics, which has no impact on the story or the gameplay"
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Come one come all. Step right up.
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Come one come all. Step right up. Dec 15, 2021, 15:20
Dec 15, 2021, 15:20
 

Help Destroy The Environment

So you can own absolutely fuckall in a game

Derp, Derp and more Derp

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FloorPie wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 15:15:
Darks wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 14:43:
Rhialto wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 12:55:
You are not alone... https://twitter.com/stalker_thegame/status/1471148058708791308

Oh, Steam forums are lighting it up too. this is not going the way the devs hoped it would. They better do some real soul searching and rethink this, or it will be the end of this game. The sales will plummet and pirating this game will take on a whole new meaning.

Come on guys, its just for cosmetics! At least, for now anyway. The new loot boxes I suppose.

From the CM "SuperProphet" on the Steam forums:

"I can understand all the disappointment. That's why I'm here, checking the comments and reading all the arguments. At the moment, I'm trying to point out a few things:

- we are not breaking the Steam rules cause we are not a blockchain-based game
- the stuff you may choose is only cosmetics, which has no impact on the story or the gameplay"

In the end, this is cost them more money then they would have ever made from those NFT's
Not to mention how many fans they have now pissed off. I have never seen the forums in Steam so united about one issue like I am seeing now. This is going to cost them more then they could have ever made. and in the end, I still think Steam is going to delist them.
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Been waiting for years for this, not so much now and will not buy unless this idea is scrapped. Other than enablers like Floorpie, it is not going over well for many reasons.
BTW Chernobylite 25% off on GOG
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In any event they promise these blockchain items will not effect gameplay

affect the noun, effect the verb

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Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 12:56:
And there goes any interest I had in this game.
Read the blurb before jumping to conclusions. Completely optional and no effect on gameplay. Blockchain <> energy wasting cryptocurrency. All in all, its just harmless promotion.
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RedEye9 wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 15:20:

Help Destroy The Environment

So you can own absolutely fuckall in a game

Derp, Derp and more Derp
Blockchain <> cryptocurrency. It doesn't use any more electricity than any other executable. I'm sure the graphics engine uses orders of magnitude more electricity to run the game than this Blockchain implementation.
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What everyone asked for. They went out to ask the customers they want and NFT's were at the top of the list.
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Darks wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 14:43:
Rhialto wrote on Dec 15, 2021, 12:55:
You are not alone... https://twitter.com/stalker_thegame/status/1471148058708791308

Oh, Steam forums are lighting it up too. this is not going the way the devs hoped it would. They better do some real soul searching and rethink this, or it will be the end of this game. The sales will plummet and pirating this game will take on a whole new meaning.

Is Stalker 2 leaving Steam? Didn't they make a NFT statement recently and that was a negatory?
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Blockchain is a solution to a non-existent problem. Plenty of other games have sold hats or skins or whatever before this, without blockchain. This is also not going to even be a 'real' blockchain, GSC Game World is going to control the blockchain at all times, and I doubt any customer can peruse the entire record. At any time they can render somebody's model or jpg or whatever utterly useless, either by shutting down the servers or just literally deleting it. Energy costs associated with this.. who knows. It will be additional energy wasted, additional servers used, in addition to the game by itself. Even assuming this is energy cheap, this is just going to be used for money laundering, most likely, with some skimming percentages off the top by GSC Game World in the marketplace they will control.

We're literally watching the dissolution of human civilization in real time; I'm only being slightly melodramatic here.

GG greed, you remain undefeated.

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There are now over 100 different NFT steam threads.
That forum is a shitshow of fanbois, ignorance and teen angst all served on generic ritz crackers.
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