Rumor: Next Battlefield a "Hero Shooter"

Battlefield rumormeister Tom Henderson tweets that his understanding is the next Battlefield will be more of a hero shooter:
The next Battlefield title is scoped as a hero shooter of sorts - It's not a removal of specialists, but an enhancement of them.

#Battlefield2042 has always been intended to be a stepping stone to a "hero shooter" with a Battle Royale - It was just executed poorly.

It should be said to take with a grain of salt, of course, but given that I heard about this stuff last week and with all of the announcements the past couple of days, it makes perfect sense.

BF 2042 did change direction early on, but I can't see them changing it?
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Dec 5, 2021, 04:18
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All I wanted was Battlefield 4.5. How could that be so difficult?

Alternatively, I'd pay top dollar for new DLC and/or maps for BF4. Top. Dollar.

That would be such a cheap win for the fans, and bags of money for EA..
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Dec 4, 2021, 16:16
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The one feature I do wish they actually copied from CoD is the ability to speak around corners and take cover and mount weapons on things really easily. It feels strange now not being able to do it.


Personally, I love the hero system in 2042. Simply because your whole squad can be of one type, and then also sub specialise. E.g. you can have a tank killer squad, or a flanking squad, but everyone still has their own different input into the squad.




Also people totally over react on the negativity, granted bugs are a plenty, but the gameplay itself is totally fine. Miss the destruction we had in Bad Company 2 though.
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Dec 4, 2021, 12:57
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Dec 4, 2021, 12:57
 
Hey DICE, will you just stop trying to make the next big CoD ripoff, battle royal or hero shooter and just make a god damn Battlefield game?! That's what we all want, a god damn Battlefield game! We buy your games because we love battlefield, the huge and intricate maps, the destructible 'battlefield', the amazing team play and variety of ways to approach the gameplay.

If we wanted another Call of Duty, Fortnite or Overwatch, we'd fucking play those games!


/rant over. Sorry I've been watching to much 'F is for Family' lately.
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Dec 4, 2021, 01:13
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I am so happy another AAA game developer is helping me to save $$ by making game I don't want to buy.
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Dec 3, 2021, 23:46
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I too think this is the "Fonzi jumps a shark on water skis" moment for the franchise.

Nobody asked for this from Battlefield.
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Dec 3, 2021, 22:36
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Dec 3, 2021, 20:02:
Ugh, are they just trying to kill the franchise or something? There are plenty of shitty "Hero Shooters," BR or otherwise, that I avoid as it is. Stop messing up Battlefield.

I feel bad for DICE. I seriously doubt they would want to go this direction for the franchise. EA has proven time and time again they interfere in the development of games under their umbrella and force MTX into games and etc etc. I also feel like EA pushed DICE to put out 2042 months before it was ready but another delay would look bad and EA was like "just put it out and fix it after like always!" which fits their MO.
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Dec 3, 2021, 21:43
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Anyone remember Battlefield Heroes?

Played it over a decade ago. I think it had more features than 2042.
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Dec 3, 2021, 20:52
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Yay, we'll be able to play "Battlewatch" in a couple of years. Maybe there will be a manic pixie dream girl scout hero named "Tracer."

This franchise continues to move in the wrong direction.
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Dec 3, 2021, 20:22
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Dec 3, 2021, 20:02:
Ugh, are they just trying to kill the franchise or something? There are plenty of shitty "Hero Shooters," BR or otherwise, that I avoid as it is. Stop messing up Battlefield.

Based on EA's previous track record, absolutely yes. Its leadership and the bean counters and whomever else they're listening to (since they're obviously not listening to gamers or the very few good devs remaining) will continue to drive this shipwreck into the ground. They earned a few brownie points when they got rid of lootboxes, but that was mostly because of the amount of legislation and legal attention they were getting: not at all because of gamer/market pressure.

EA only cares about what kind of profit they can wring out of a game/franchise and they don't think about how a good game or good game design can get them that profit. They focus solely on finding the right mix of predatory game mechanics--like battle royales, season/battle passes, sold skins and other microtransactions--to try and milk consumers of every last penny. They don't seem to realize that most of their decently profitable games have been because of brand loyalty, but that the brand loyalty only goes so far. Battlefield, as an example, has been steadily treading downhill since Battlefield 4/I. BF V and the two new SW Battlefronts in the same style and same design demonstrate how that slide has continued downhill. Gamers looked forward to BF2042 because it promised a potential return to the experiences of Battlefield 2/3 and 2142 with its bit of near-modern tint, but the foundational design choices made in 2042 prove that EA's direction is here to stay and that the franchise will only continue to deteriorate.

Specialists, for example, are an engine not just to sell new skins but also new specialists and associated battlepasses for all of it - which is why just using classes won't work, since it's hard to generate interest in buying a new class, and there's only so many classes before you get considerable overlap. But tacking on Specialists, and soon "Heroes" (which is all specialists are in BF2042, since they all feature a unique person and "personality") lets you create "unique" specialists and "heroes" to then advertise and sell. Plus it exponentially increases the amount of skins/reskins you can then tack on top of it all to sell in addition to all of it. So EA would never allow a return to the BF 3/4 class system with some of the more "basic" customization options (soldier skins) if they can see another option. Ironically, they're so stupid they don't realize that they could go with classes and sell players customization options that they'd absolutely buy - Insurgency: Sandstorm, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Breakpoint are all good examples of that. Being a "generic soldier" or "SF operator" and being able to play "dress up" with different camos, outfits, vests, and gear setups is absolutely a thing players would get behind. But that isn't what the market leaders are using, so that isn't what EA is going to consider much if at all.

They'll kill the franchise and DICE (If one can say the DICE of today looks anything like the DICE most Battlefield fans remember), just like they have so many others. The last gasp will be remasters - which is what Portal effectively is - like with Command and Conquer. Battlefield will die a long, slow, ugly, lingering death.

Because these "game" companies prioritize profit at the expense of everything else this won't change, a new competitor will just come along and scoop up the consumers they lost. Companies make games to make money, of course, but it is lost on them that good games can and absolutely do make good money. They have to have a whole mass of marketeers, market analysts, and financial analysts/accountants/etc., parade through and design the game before they let any good devs and good game designers actually do anything to "maximize profit."

The result is something like Battlefield 2042.
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Ugh, are they just trying to kill the franchise or something? There are plenty of shitty "Hero Shooters," BR or otherwise, that I avoid as it is. Stop messing up Battlefield.
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More fuel for the dumpster fire
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