Better yet how about an alien blade runner predator westworld dancing with the stars crossover series. Think of the story arcs.

Blade Runner and Alien TV shows are in the works, Ridley Scott says.

I could only watch one episode of Raised by Wolves before giving up. Not a lot of hope here...

On a whim, I tried the pilot for that new Blade Runner: Black Orchid after seeing the quick preview

I thought that I'd probably be horrified but it was better than expected.

Free pilot can be seen at the link. No need to register or anything.
https://www.adultswim.com/videos/blade-runner-black-lotus/city-of-angels


Raised By Wolves got more interesting after the first episode. ...And then it got seriously hallucinatory by the end of the season.

jdreyer wrote on Nov 22, 2021, 19:12:
Blade Runner and Alien TV shows are in the works, Ridley Scott says.

I could only watch one episode of Raised by Wolves before giving up. Not a lot of hope here...

The first few episodes of Raised by Wolves are amazing. Then it quickly gives birth to a flying snake and makes no sense whatsoever. Ridley Scott is completely unpredictable.

I made it thru the first season of Raised by Wolves, i don't need any more.
Blade Runner: Black Orchid looks ok, especially more so since I went immediately into it after exiting the cyberpunk hacking tutorial.
FYI S1 EP1 Expires: January 2nd 2022

Cowboy Bebop is good.

I love Kojima games but the part I like least in all of his games are the cutscenes - speaking of Blade Runner / Alien genericness.

RedEye9 wrote on Nov 22, 2021, 22:24:
Cowboy Bebop is good.

Not sure if you're being serious here....

There's just too much of a fundamental change from the source material for me to like it as Cowboy Bebop as Netflix produced it. Factoring in the problems with the cinematography not translating from anime to live-action, characters that also don't translate to live-action well (see: Ed, Woodcock), and the massive change to the 'ending', I just couldn't like it beyond just mindless entertainment.

I didn't like the changes to Faye because it removed aspects of the character; Pineda might be a great actress, but she doesn't suit the character. Cho works plenty fine as Spike, and Shakir is perfect as Jet. Hassel didn't have Vicious' gravitas from the source material. It didn't matter who played Ed, they don't translate very well to a real person no matter how well they act.

There's just a lot of fundamental flaws in trying to adapt a very heavily stylized work like Cowboy Bebop to live-action that they really didn't have much of a chance from the get-go. I will give them kudos for the CGI though, that was pretty spot-on.

DarkCntry wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 05:48:

RedEye9 wrote on Nov 22, 2021, 22:24:
Cowboy Bebop is good.

Not sure if you're being serious here....

There's just too much of a fundamental change from the source material for me to like it as Cowboy Bebop as Netflix produced it. Factoring in the problems with the cinematography not translating from anime to live-action, characters that also don't translate to live-action well (see: Ed, Woodcock), and the massive change to the 'ending', I just couldn't like it beyond just mindless entertainment.

I didn't like the changes to Faye because it removed aspects of the character; Pineda might be a great actress, but she doesn't suit the character. Cho works plenty fine as Spike, and Shakir is perfect as Jet. Hassel didn't have Vicious' gravitas from the source material. It didn't matter who played Ed, they don't translate very well to a real person no matter how well they act.

There's just a lot of fundamental flaws in trying to adapt a very heavily stylized work like Cowboy Bebop to live-action that they really didn't have much of a chance from the get-go. I will give them kudos for the CGI though, that was pretty spot-on.

I dunno, Ein is pretty cute...

PHJF wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 09:04:
I dunno, Ein is pretty cute...

Well, a corgi will always be a corgi...

DarkCntry wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 05:48:
There's just too much of a fundamental change from the source material for me to like it as Cowboy Bebop as Netflix produced it. Factoring in the problems with the cinematography not translating from anime to live-action, characters that also don't translate to live-action well (see: Ed, Woodcock), and the massive change to the 'ending', I just couldn't like it beyond just mindless entertainment.

I know it is difficult to do, but try to imagine you knew nothing about Cowboy Bebop until you watched it on Netflix, then what would you think? Because I'm reasonably certain that will be the situation for a lot of the Netflix viewers.

Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 09:09:
I know it is difficult to do, but try to imagine you knew nothing about Cowboy Bebop until you watched it on Netflix, then what would you think? Because I'm reasonably certain that will be the situation for a lot of the Netflix viewers.

I'd still think the cinematography wasn't great, that some of the characters feel hollow, and that Ed is about as cringe as you can get.

The problem with your hypothetical is that we don't really live in a vacuum and the manga, and subsequently the anime, have existed for over 2 decades, it's highly improbable that anyone going to watch it won't have had some exposure to the source works. Those that have somehow done this are probably going to find it pretty much all flash and no substance.

DarkCntry wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 10:21:
The problem with your hypothetical is that we don't really live in a vacuum and the manga, and subsequently the anime, have existed for over 2 decades, it's highly improbable that anyone going to watch it won't have had some exposure to the source works. Those that have somehow done this are probably going to find it pretty much all flash and no substance.

You might be right, you might not. Doubt we'll ever know, I am considering it (although not currently subscribed to Netflix) and I know nothing about source materials. Anime is very hit and miss for me, seen some I really liked, seen a lot more I couldn't finish because I thought it was so bad.

I’d never heard of CB before and knew nothing about the series.
I’ll see if I can find the originals. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213338/
I’m not an anime guy, but this show is fun.

I don't watch much anime either but that Arcane series that just popped up on Netflix is good.

I'm definitely not a fan of the League of Legends game but this is evidently sort of a prequel tie-in to that world. I almost didn't try it because of the LOL tie in but I'm glad I did.

I was excited for the new Bebop show, and ended up bailing about half-way through the first episode. It was just painfully bad for me. Campy and cheesy, but unfunny. I've heard it gets better after the first episode, so I may give it another shot. WoT and Foundation have been disapointing, too.

I watched the first episode of Arcana. It's suprisingly well written for a show aimed at young teens. It's very tropey, though. That's fine for kids who haven't been exposed to the same story 50 times already, but I'm not sure I'm up for that again.

Bodolza wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 14:02:
I was excited for the new Bebop show, and ended up bailing about half-way through the first episode. It was just painfully bad for me. Campy and cheesy, but unfunny. I've heard it gets better after the first episode, so I may give it another shot. WoT and Foundation have been disapointing, too.

I watched the first episode of Arcana. It's suprisingly well written for a show aimed at young teens. It's very tropey, though. That's fine for kids who haven't been exposed to the same story 50 times already, but I'm not sure I'm up for that again.

After binging the first season of Arcane, I wouldn't say that it's really aimed at young teens. The show has a good amount of swearing, violence, death, sexuality (one scene takes place in a brothel even), and later on there's a decent amount of politics that I think would bore young teens who just want action scene after action scene. Each episode usually just has one actiony set piece but a lot of it revolves around characters exploring, getting into conflicts or just talking about important stuff.

And although episode 1 and 2 begin as tropey, I'd say that the show in general does a really good job of subverting tropes (for the most part) in that most of the characters aren't just black or white/good or evil. Most of the important characters are varying shades of grey and what side of that grey is at is debatable by fans. Things doesn't always work out as planned and there are usually consequences for certain character's actions that can actually have meaningful impact in shaping them from there on out.

Arcane is definitely my favorite show of the year so far and I daresay that it might be my favorite animated show in a good long while. It completely ups the ante in regards to how absolutely beautiful CGI-animated shows could be going forward.

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OpticNerve wrote on Nov 24, 2021, 01:18:

Bodolza wrote on Nov 23, 2021, 14:02:
I was excited for the new Bebop show, and ended up bailing about half-way through the first episode. It was just painfully bad for me. Campy and cheesy, but unfunny. I've heard it gets better after the first episode, so I may give it another shot. WoT and Foundation have been disapointing, too.

I watched the first episode of Arcana. It's suprisingly well written for a show aimed at young teens. It's very tropey, though. That's fine for kids who haven't been exposed to the same story 50 times already, but I'm not sure I'm up for that again.

After binging the first season of Arcane, I wouldn't say that it's really aimed at young teens. The show has a good amount of swearing, violence, death, sexuality (one scene takes place in a brothel even), and later on there's a decent amount of politics that I think would bore young teens who just want action scene after action scene. Each episode usually just has one actiony set piece but a lot of it revolves around characters exploring, getting into conflicts or just talking about important stuff.

And although episode 1 and 2 begin as tropey, I'd say that the show in general does a really good job of subverting tropes (for the most part) in that most of the characters aren't just black or white/good or evil. Most of the important characters are varying shades of grey and what side of that grey is at is debatable by fans. Things doesn't always work out as planned and there are usually consequences for certain character's actions that can actually have meaningful impact in shaping them from there on out.

Arcane is definitely my favorite show of the year so far and I daresay that it might be my favorite animated show in a good long while. It completely ups the ante in regards to how absolutely beautiful CGI-animated shows could be going forward.

I heard it's really good from my film podcast. Thanks for confirming. Added to watch list.

Nuhauser wrote on Nov 22, 2021, 20:51:

jdreyer wrote on Nov 22, 2021, 19:12:
Blade Runner and Alien TV shows are in the works, Ridley Scott says.

I could only watch one episode of Raised by Wolves before giving up. Not a lot of hope here...

The first few episodes of Raised by Wolves are amazing. Then it quickly gives birth to a flying snake and makes no sense whatsoever. Ridley Scott is completely unpredictable.

Yeah, that S1 ending was weird.