Beyond Good & Evil 2 Development Hell? [Nov 12, 2021, 7:07 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Renowned leakerator Tom Henderson took
to
Twitter with the latest on Beyond Good & Evil 2. The action/adventure
prequel was first unveiled
five years ago, and when
series creator Michel Ancel
left Ubisoft last year he
said the project was "going super well." According to Tom, the game is actually
in development hell, and some of the team expect it will eventually be
cancelled:
Beyond Good & Evil 2 - The game is suffering a development crisis from a lack of creative direction since the title went into development, which was worsened by Michael Ancel's departure from the studio in September 2020.
What's worse, is that the game currently doesn't fit with Ubisoft's future ambitions and goals with future titles. The game has been described as "Skull & Bones 2.0" and although the game hasn't been canned officially, some developers believe it's a matter of time before it is.
Not surprised. Beyond Good & Evil was really good. Unfortunately Ubisoft didn't think so and always said "yeah yeah, of course we are going to make a sequel" and it never happened.
Now we donce.
speaking of beyond good and evil
Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 12:22:HorrorScope wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 10:49:Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:
video games are in a strange space right now
My guess is a ton of talent has left and on the technical coding end and it isn't easy to replace at all.
your guess is wrong... its about microtransactions, like i stated previously
I don't get that.
Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 09:12:I did. You were talking about games in general, not about games from AAA publishers. If you dont want to be misunderstood, be more precise.
you need to read my post more carefully...
HorrorScope wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 10:49:Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:
video games are in a strange space right now
My guess is a ton of talent has left and on the technical coding end and it isn't easy to replace at all.
your guess is wrong... its about microtransactions, like i stated previously
Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:
video games are in a strange space right now
My guess is a ton of talent has left and on the technical coding end and it isn't easy to replace at all.
Rilcon wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 10:04:
Who could have possibly predicted this?
anyone who knows the definition of "logic"
Wait, wait, what!?
You mean to say the sequel to an acclaimed game now spanning several star systems and simulating entire planets and cities and civilizations with millions of individual NPCs all in a narrative-heavy open-world campaign with multiple characters and loaded with bleeding edge tech might be in development hell?
Who could have possibly predicted this?
You mean to say the sequel to an acclaimed game now spanning several star systems and simulating entire planets and cities and civilizations with millions of individual NPCs all in a narrative-heavy open-world campaign with multiple characters and loaded with bleeding edge tech might be in development hell?
Who could have possibly predicted this?
Except literally every single human being that saw the first gameplay teaser ~5 years ago.
Kajetan wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 06:24:Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:No, not really. Mobile games CAN be very profitable, true, but a A LOT of those fail miserably. Investing in mobile games is a high risk/high profit gamble. Sure, it can go very well, but the majority of those projects fail. Just look at what happened to Wizards Unite. It has the Harry Potter IP, it was a game from Niantic, it has everything popular right now on the mobile platform and they shut it down after only two years.
video games are in a strange space right now
the profitability of mobile platforms is destroying any and all motivation to make anything other than money machines based on virtual gambling or "cosmetics"
There is a plethora of games of every type and genre and platform available for every taste. Because money can be made with every game.
you need to read my post more carefully... there are mobile platforms that make tons of money, you cannot deny that - and the desire to "win" at that game is the motivation im talking about
and its the reason you have loot boxes and microtransaction stores in nearly every single game coming from the AAA publishers, regardless if its "mobile" or not... because the simple idea of microtransactions is the REAL POINT im making here
so your arguments are irrelevant and beside the REAL POINT.... also they sound a lot like sour grapes, or outright denial
Kajetan wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 06:24:I found an article that claims that the numbers they have access to indicate that 99.5% of all mobile apps targeted at consumers (ie. games and "fun" apps) fail to make enough money to cover the expense of developing them. Even less make an actual profit.Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:No, not really. Mobile games CAN be very profitable, true, but a A LOT of those fail miserably. Investing in mobile games is a high risk/high profit gamble. Sure, it can go very well, but the majority of those projects fail. Just look at what happened to Wizards Unite. It has the Harry Potter IP, it was a game from Niantic, it has everything popular right now on the mobile platform and they shut it down after only two years.
video games are in a strange space right now
the profitability of mobile platforms is destroying any and all motivation to make anything other than money machines based on virtual gambling or "cosmetics"
There is a plethora of games of every type and genre and platform available for every taste. Because money can be made with every game.
It takes a lot of advertising, an engaging enough gameplay loop (not necessarily fun, just engaging), a good UI design and a stable backend to get something out of a mobile GaaS. A currently popular IP can help, but those tend to cost a lot to license, so that's another money pit that can cause a game to fail financially.
What a shame, the CGI teaser was like a mix of Cyberpunk and Star Citizen, it looked fantastic.
"Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss." - The Who.
Hattori Hanzō wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 04:26:No, not really. Mobile games CAN be very profitable, true, but a A LOT of those fail miserably. Investing in mobile games is a high risk/high profit gamble. Sure, it can go very well, but the majority of those projects fail. Just look at what happened to Wizards Unite. It has the Harry Potter IP, it was a game from Niantic, it has everything popular right now on the mobile platform and they shut it down after only two years.
video games are in a strange space right now
the profitability of mobile platforms is destroying any and all motivation to make anything other than money machines based on virtual gambling or "cosmetics"
There is a plethora of games of every type and genre and platform available for every taste. Because money can be made with every game.
video games are in a strange space right now
the profitability of mobile platforms is destroying any and all motivation to make anything other than money machines based on virtual gambling or "cosmetics"
the profitability of mobile platforms is destroying any and all motivation to make anything other than money machines based on virtual gambling or "cosmetics"
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It was quite obvious to me that development of the game is done the moment Ancel left the company. This franchise is all him. If he's not there, it's not as well.
It was quite obvious to me that development of the game is done the moment Ancel left the company. This franchise is all him. If he's not there, it's not as well.
RogueSix wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 23:34:
Yeah, it's probably hard to turn this into a typical UbiSoft GaaS title with MTX monetization and annual passes. It wouldn't be surprising if they cancelled it.
What makes you think that? If they wanted Ubisoft Open World (TM) they could have done that here easily, the first game is basically the precursor to big open world games now. But the actual fact is, how the hell you even make a game like this, with heavy stylistic influence, without a creative director?
Original was 18 years ago. Ubisoft aims most of their games at people who weren't born when the first one came out. This now is going to get the same attention of Lost Boys 2 and 3. Without the creative lead as well? Game Over
Re: Beyond Good & Evil 2 Development Hell?
Nov 13, 2021, 01:48
Nov 13, 2021, 01:48
Bill Borre wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 21:25:
Skull & Bones 2.0? Strange. I thought that game was supposed to be heavily influenced by the sailing parts of Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
Skull and Bones 2.0 in that it is stuck in development hell with probably several revamps at this point.
S&B has been in development for 6 years now, from what I recall, possibly longer with a development cost of $120 million and climbing.
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Yeah, it's probably hard to turn this into a typical UbiSoft GaaS title with MTX monetization and annual passes. It wouldn't be surprising if they cancelled it.
Skull & Bones 2.0? Strange. I thought that game was supposed to be heavily influenced by the sailing parts of Assassin's Creed Black Flag. The first Beyond Good and Evil was not a game I would've compared to Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
This game will be Ubisuck version of Duke Nukem.
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