HorrorScope wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 15:43:
Can you play full scale wars now with just bots?

yes, you even get xp for it and unlock attachments for weapons.

Can you play full scale wars now with just bots?

Laughing Man wrote on Nov 13, 2021, 02:40:
crossplay has nothing to do with anything working in this game and it's something a website started as a possible fix. their own twitter stated the unable to connect persistence issues stem from their own servers and everything and anything you do to try to fix it won't mean anything because it isn't something you can fix. you just have to keep trying until you get into a game.

If only this company had a couple of decades of experience with AAA launches and a million people trying to hit their servers at once, this never would have happened. We must forgive them for being so new at this.

theglaze wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 21:06:

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 20:36:
Something is seriously wrong with the mouse configuration, and currently as infantry my gun fires constantly.

I have to unplug all other peripheral components with input, otherwise, my mouse does not function properly.

I've had this issue in other games. Having a controller plugged in will bork the other controls, so I have to unplug it before starting the game. Behavior can be anything: kbd/mouse don't function at all, move fwd, turn left, fire button, shift key continuously depressed, etc.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 22:02:
theglaze -> yeah, I didn't even have a game pad or joystick plugged in, but I couldn't fix the random firing issue until I deleted all Gamepad bindings.

I updated my mouse firmware too, that seems to have fixed the 'Unable to Rebind Mice buttons' issue, so now I can at least shoot as infantry.

However, with crossplay on or off, I cannot connect to multiplayer. I'm guessing their servers are just getting hammered right now?

Very annoying playing with bots, because there is no "Just Solo" option, it's Solo/Coop, so the game sometimes waits forever for people to join? Fucking idiotic design. Solo is not the same as Coop, DICE.

I have like 30 people from various Battlefield games in my Origin list, like 2-3 of them currently have BF2042, I wonder if they are getting spammed with "Join Coop with This Guy" messages when I try to run Solo.

I did play around with the choppers a little bit, they seem... different from previous battlefields, definitely more mouse focused with something close to the default key setup. Missiles definitely have a far lower rate of fire than BF4, for example. Hopefully the gunner seat is a beast to make up for the shit firepower the pilot has. I couldn't get the larger missile to lock onto any vehicles at all, so haven't actually shot that yet.

*EDIT* I may just give it a week, almost all of my normal BF teammates didn't even bother buying the pre-order. Wise decision it seems.

*EDIT 2* Okay, I was able to join a few multiplayer conquest large matches, and a hardware match. With Crossplay Off. Seems it's a known bug at the moment, error 2002G or 600P, Failure to load Persistence Data ore something along those lines. You also do not seem to stay on the same server after that map is over. Seems like a shit design that's hammering their servers, but who knows.

Bullet registry seems good, maybe even great. the Attachment system would probably be cool if I had some attachments. I revived my squad mates a bunch in Hardware, even though we had no clue what the fuck was going on, that seems like that could be a fun game mode with a voice commed quartet. Conquest Large... what a cluster fuck. It's as bad as it's ever been, rofl. I got revived once, had my vehicle repaired zero times in 4 matches. Squads immediately all ran off to the 4 corners of the earth. They are really making it apparent that you need to bring your own squad to even get anywhere in the game. Also, you can't currently carry a repair tool AND a rocket launcher, so of course no one has a repair tool. Very stupid design decision, since there are a shitload of vehicles and anti-vehicle seems required.

I don't know yet about this game though; I love the tank movement and mechanics, the tanks are basically the best parts of BF4 and BF3. Unfortunately, good luck getting into a tank from a regular spawn. Most of the vehicles seem pretty awesome, honestly. Although clearly the jeeps have some armor upgrade that I didn't unlock yet, as I was getting sniped and machine gunned in any jeep or hovercraft seat, and could do no machine gun damage to other light vehicles.

Also, very few people defending any flags, of course. No team voice comm as far as I can tell, and of course no public chat, only team, squad and 'party'.

Heli's I had to REALLY crank up the mouse sensitivity but overall they are slower but a bit more beefier (as long as you don't take a rocket directly head on into the cockpit). But in typical BF fasion, idiots jump in them to get across the map and bail out (which sucks) and restarts the timer on them. Also I can't fly in 3rd person at all (which I typically don't do) but the cockpit view is a bit bigger in this game so sometimes I have to use 3rd person for capping points or landings.

The game could really use a Commander again, and I don't mind the lack of global chat as it keeps "the stupid" down to a min. Voice chat REALLY can't come fast enough.
Infantry weapons are pretty much worthless against vehicles (except aiming for the driver/pilot), and it makes hitting things like the sides/back of tanks etc (like in BF4) affect the performance of the vehicle (which is a good thing). Also like BF4, the more ya use a vehicle the more goodies ya unlock for it.

Attachment System, I THINK I figured out how to load into a game with them as the default. Make sure they are nearest to the middle of the attachment cross and they should be the defaults when going into a match.

As for the 128 player maps, what you describe is exactly WHY I HATE that large scale of maps. It's just a cluster fuck on all sides and no one works as a squad.

you just clear the fire button from the controller(far right) column and you'll stop firing. you just hold escape and it will clear it. if it doesn't restart the game and try again. just one of many issues.

crossplay has nothing to do with anything working in this game and it's something a website started as a possible fix. their own twitter stated the unable to connect persistence issues stem from their own servers and everything and anything you do to try to fix it won't mean anything because it isn't something you can fix. you just have to keep trying until you get into a game.

these are the tip of the iceberg for problems for this game. i don't understand how I played release day for 7 hours with like 2 problems and tonight I tried to play with friends and we got to play one single game in 3 hours before they all quit and went back to warzone. this game shouldn't of been released this year. between server issues and terrible audio alone should of been a huge red flag especially with previous releases and the issues they've have with rubber banding. glad I didn't pay for it and have to wait months for them to fix it.

theglaze -> yeah, I didn't even have a game pad or joystick plugged in, but I couldn't fix the random firing issue until I deleted all Gamepad bindings.

I updated my mouse firmware too, that seems to have fixed the 'Unable to Rebind Mice buttons' issue, so now I can at least shoot as infantry.

However, with crossplay on or off, I cannot connect to multiplayer. I'm guessing their servers are just getting hammered right now?

Very annoying playing with bots, because there is no "Just Solo" option, it's Solo/Coop, so the game sometimes waits forever for people to join? Fucking idiotic design. Solo is not the same as Coop, DICE.

I have like 30 people from various Battlefield games in my Origin list, like 2-3 of them currently have BF2042, I wonder if they are getting spammed with "Join Coop with This Guy" messages when I try to run Solo.

I did play around with the choppers a little bit, they seem... different from previous battlefields, definitely more mouse focused with something close to the default key setup. Missiles definitely have a far lower rate of fire than BF4, for example. Hopefully the gunner seat is a beast to make up for the shit firepower the pilot has. I couldn't get the larger missile to lock onto any vehicles at all, so haven't actually shot that yet.

*EDIT* I may just give it a week, almost all of my normal BF teammates didn't even bother buying the pre-order. Wise decision it seems.

*EDIT 2* Okay, I was able to join a few multiplayer conquest large matches, and a hardware match. With Crossplay Off. Seems it's a known bug at the moment, error 2002G or 600P, Failure to load Persistence Data ore something along those lines. You also do not seem to stay on the same server after that map is over. Seems like a shit design that's hammering their servers, but who knows.

Bullet registry seems good, maybe even great. the Attachment system would probably be cool if I had some attachments. I revived my squad mates a bunch in Hardware, even though we had no clue what the fuck was going on, that seems like that could be a fun game mode with a voice commed quartet. Conquest Large... what a cluster fuck. It's as bad as it's ever been, rofl. I got revived once, had my vehicle repaired zero times in 4 matches. Squads immediately all ran off to the 4 corners of the earth. They are really making it apparent that you need to bring your own squad to even get anywhere in the game. Also, you can't currently carry a repair tool AND a rocket launcher, so of course no one has a repair tool. Very stupid design decision, since there are a shitload of vehicles and anti-vehicle seems required.

I don't know yet about this game though; I love the tank movement and mechanics, the tanks are basically the best parts of BF4 and BF3. Unfortunately, good luck getting into a tank from a regular spawn. Most of the vehicles seem pretty awesome, honestly. Although clearly the jeeps have some armor upgrade that I didn't unlock yet, as I was getting sniped and machine gunned in any jeep or hovercraft seat, and could do no machine gun damage to other light vehicles.

Also, very few people defending any flags, of course. No team voice comm as far as I can tell, and of course no public chat, only team, squad and 'party'.

This comment was edited on Nov 13, 2021, 01:39.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Nov 12, 2021, 20:36:
Something is seriously wrong with the mouse configuration, and currently as infantry my gun fires constantly.

I have to unplug all other peripheral components with input, otherwise, my mouse does not function properly.

Remapping key bindings is a pain (doesn't delete delete or highlight double mappings, doesn't carry the same binding over to other profiles, and the game doesn't recognize some of my new mappings) and my Mouse 4 and 5 are not recognized as input.

Disabling CrossPlay does not help me connect.

I can't connect to multiplayer, so I played a bot match. Maps (so far) look gorgeous, and are gigantic in conquest large. They seem to have removed 3D spotting, or it works differently, it's hard as hell to spot infantry in first person view from inside a tank, and it seems only if you damage people(?) do they get an orange enemy marker over their head.

Something is seriously wrong with the mouse configuration, and currently as infantry my gun fires constantly. It seems to be a bug related to "Gunner" bindings, according to some forum rumors, but the suggestions to unbind the Fire button from gunner don't work, because I cannot change any Mouse bindings. Keyboard bindings can be deleted by holding ESC, Mouse bindings work the same way for some people, but apparently in my game it's "Hold Option *Veritcal Bar* " to unbind, whatever the fuck that is. So I can't unbind any mouse settings, and they all immediately get bound to Mouse 6, which is a movement rate button on my current mouse.

I wonder if it's a driver/mouse option? I have an EVGA X17 mouse, for the record.

First day bugs for a BF game, not really unexpected, but still. Not being able to stop shooting is a first.

So here is what I know and work arounds for them.

Failure to connect could be 1 of 2 things. 1) A bug with cross play turned on, 2) Some sort of back end server maintence (which they have done quite a bit of today).

Turning off VSync, and also there is a option for Future Frame Rendering, when turned off increases performance by a BUTTLOAD.

AI is mostly braindead (been playing against bots to learn the maps and weapons/vehicles) and Spot (the Ranger ie: Robot Dog) as I call him is all but worthless except as a speed bump (except when calling him in and he's landed up on a tower and just rains bullets down on everything).
Speaking of calling it in, the Comms menu is just a fucking pain in the ass and works 1 in 3 times when holding down the default Q key, gonna see if I can remap it (which I just did and will see if it's better).

Will run through and stream another session later tonight and give another review.

This game is in much better shape then I thought it would be. Reading all those tweets from the leaker dude made it sound like the launch was going to be a disaster.

Being unable to connect to a server is not a 'flaw' at launch. It's a failure.