Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 19:02:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:08:
OK well whether or not you like it, that's the law in California, so what he said was accurate.

That's relative. And whether I like it or not is irrelevant, the minimum wage in the US, and California is in the US, isn't a "fat" 62.4K/year, it's 15K/year. That's the lowest legal full-time salary for 1 year of work at 40 hours/week for 52 weeks ( tipped work notwithstanding ).

Laughing Man wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:45:
Have you ever had a job? I find it odd you don't understand the difference between being salary and hourly.

Spare me your attempt at an Ad Hominem.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/salary

Notice "wage" in the synonyms. How are wages measured? Hourly! Well... Who would've guessed?

But... I will allow the possibility that it's not the same thing, as it is in pretty much every other language including my mother tongue ( french ). So if somehow this is another so-called "American exceptionalism", then educate me instead of throwing counter-productive and useless Ad Hominems around please will you? At least that would be constructive.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 19:02:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:08:
OK well whether or not you like it, that's the law in California, so what he said was accurate.

That's relative.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 19:02:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:08:
OK well whether or not you like it, that's the law in California, so what he said was accurate.

That's relative. And whether I like it or not is irrelevant, the minimum wage in the US, and California is in the US, isn't a "fat" 62.4K/year, it's 15K/year. That's the lowest legal full-time salary for 1 year of work at 40 hours/week for 52 weeks ( tipped work notwithstanding ).

Laughing Man wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:45:
Have you ever had a job? I find it odd you don't understand the difference between being salary and hourly.

Spare me your attempt at an Ad Hominem.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/salary

Notice "wage" in the synonyms. How are wages measured? Hourly! Well... Who would've guessed?

But... I will allow the possibility that it's not the same thing, as it is in pretty much every other language including my mother tongue ( french ). So if somehow this is another so-called "American exceptionalism", then educate me instead of throwing counter-productive and useless Ad Hominems around please will you? At least that would be constructive.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 19:02:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:08:
OK well whether or not you like it, that's the law in California, so what he said was accurate.

That's relative. And whether I like it or not is irrelevant, the minimum wage in the US, and California is in the US, isn't a "fat" 62.4K/year, it's 15K/year. That's the lowest legal full-time salary for 1 year of work at 40 hours/week for 52 weeks ( tipped work notwithstanding ).

Laughing Man wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:45:
Have you ever had a job? I find it odd you don't understand the difference between being salary and hourly.

Spare me your weak attempt at an Ad Hominem.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/salary

Notice "wage" in the synonyms. How are wages measured? Hourly! Well... Who would've guessed?

But... I will allow the possibility that it's not the same thing, as it is in pretty much every other language including my mother tongue ( french ). So if somehow this is another so-called "American exceptionalism", then educate me instead of throwing counter-productive and useless Ad Hominems around please will you? At least that would be constructive.

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:08:
OK well whether or not you like it, that's the law in California, so what he said was accurate.

Laughing Man wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 18:45:
Have you ever had a job? I find it odd you don't understand the difference between being salary and hourly.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 17:41:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 16:08:
In California, "White collar" or executive/administrative type employees, independent contractors, etc. have a different minimum salary based on roughly double minimum wage for a 40 hour week, and it depends on how many employees their company has as well. The minimum salary for those types of workers in California in 2022, if your company has 26 or more employees, is $62,400. You can probably look up the exact qualifications for what type of workers this applies to.

Couldn't care less if he's a "white collar" worker or brown brake trace in underwear worker, minimum wage is lowest wage. Heck, 62.4K isn't even below the poverty line.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 17:41:

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 16:08:
In California, "White collar" or executive/administrative type employees, independent contractors, etc. have a different minimum salary based on roughly double minimum wage for a 40 hour week, and it depends on how many employees their company has as well. The minimum salary for those types of workers in California in 2022, if your company has 26 or more employees, is $62,400. You can probably look up the exact qualifications for what type of workers this applies to.

Couldn't care less if he's a "white collar" worker or brown brake trace in underwear worker, minimum wage is lowest wage. Heck, 62.4K isn't even below the poverty line.

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 16:08:
In California, "White collar" or executive/administrative type employees, independent contractors, etc. have a different minimum salary based on roughly double minimum wage for a 40 hour week, and it depends on how many employees their company has as well. The minimum salary for those types of workers in California in 2022, if your company has 26 or more employees, is $62,400. You can probably look up the exact qualifications for what type of workers this applies to.

To be clear, this is a reduction in my overall compensation, not just my salary. I am asking not to receive any bonuses or be granted any equity during this time.

Simon Says wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 15:58:

He must be taking everyone for idiots... Lowest salary is MINIMUM WAGE.

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 15:47:

Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 15:35:
I promise if you give me $200 million for one year of work, I will not mind if you cut my pay the next year.

After a few years at that amount though you'd probably get a little miffed that they were cutting your compensation to zero. A lot of rich, greedy people weren't always rich and greedy. Making a shit ton of money enabled them to become that way. It doesn't matter if they make more than enough money to fund their desired lifestyle. It's still a dick measuring contest with your rich friends.

NKD wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 13:47:

intermarer wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 13:33:

an increased percentage of female and non-binary employees

How can you run a business like this? Wouldn't it make more sense to just hire based on skill?

It's both. They aren't just going "Hey, you're a woman, HIRED!" to every woman who comes through the door. What these types of diversity pushes mean is that they are going out of their way to find female/non-binary employees who are qualified for the job. As you can see by companies getting absolutely keel-hauled because they have toxic bro culture, there's a little more to consider to the bottom line than the competency of your workers.

I imagine you'd find an inverse correlation between companies with large numbers of female and non-binary employees and companies with toxic bro culture problems and multiple sexual harrassment investigations.

roguebanshee wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 12:41:

The Half Elf wrote on Oct 28, 2021, 11:38:
Really? A pay cut? Dude ya got millions every year in bonus's.

To be fair, he's asking to not even receive any bonus this year.

Not that it'll really matter to his financial status due to the massive bonuses he's received in previous years. And as mentioned, it doesn't really have anything to do with making the workplace environment better whatsoever. Because the "saved" money will almost certainly just go to the investors instead.