Out of the Blue

Well last night was the Super Bowl of competitive television production, as the 2021 Emmy Awards were handed out. This was definitely a celebration of streaming, as it seems like the big winners were The Queen's Gambit, The Crown, and Ted Lasso. I've seen the Queen's Gambit and The Crown and enjoyed both greatly, so I'm on board with those choices. But we don't have Apple TV+, so I haven't yet gotten to see what all the fuss is about for Ted Lasso. I'll know soon enough, however. I've previously mentioned my childhood immersed in classic science fiction, and I loved the Foundation Trilogy dearly. So there's about zero chance that I won't get on board when the Foundation TV series is released. Even if it stinks on ice, I'll experience that for myself.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Sep 26, 2021, 22:31
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 Ant
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 26, 2021, 22:23:
So much great stuff you are missing out on. Sad
Ha, I miss out when reading too! Sad
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Sep 26, 2021, 22:23
 
So much great stuff you are missing out on. Sad
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Foundation
Sep 26, 2021, 22:19
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Sep 26, 2021, 22:19
 Ant
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 26, 2021, 22:02:
Ant wrote on Sep 26, 2021, 21:48:
I didn't read its books since I don't like to read.
It almost hurts me to read you say that. I have gotten so much enjoyment out of reading over the last fifty years. Do you listen to audibles?
Nah, I am not crazy about audibles due to my poor hearing since birth. I like visual stuff.
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Re: Foundation
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Ant wrote on Sep 26, 2021, 21:48:
I didn't read its books since I don't like to read.
It almost hurts me to read you say that. I have gotten so much enjoyment out of reading over the last fifty years. Do you listen to audibles?
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Foundation
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Sep 26, 2021, 21:48
 Ant
 
I didn't read its books since I don't like to read. I watched the first two episodes (first episode is free to watch and was good). However, its second episode was slow until the ending.
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Sep 23, 2021, 21:19
 
I was just watching the trailers again and unless they are completely misleading, I think it's clear the series will be significantly different from the novels. There is just too much action. Which when you pause to think about it, this is not particularly surprising. As I said, the novels are really mostly personal interactions which in today's world tend not to make successful shows....
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Sep 21, 2021, 13:20
 
Takes a while to adapt to it as your brain is not wired to hear books initially, but eventually it becomes the same in your brain and I honestly can never remember whether I read or heard a book. I still read, but I still listen to most of my books while driving, working out, etc. I am one of those people that can read multiple books at the same time so there's always one in my Kindle app for times when I want to read or an audio book wouldn't be appropriate (like a waiting room) and one in my Audible app.

As I used to spend a huge amount of time on the road, so I learned to love audio books (on cassette, long before Audible).

The reading pace is usually not an issue for me, with rare exceptions (like re-reads where I'm very familiar with a book and want to move quickly past a slow part). The Audible app does have a speed setting I use in that situation (1.5X usually) that speeds up the audio without altering the pitch.

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The Flying Penguin wrote on Sep 21, 2021, 12:11:
It's been a long time since I read them. I keep meaning to re-read (or more likely listen, as I prefer audible books nowadays).
Tried audible books, not a fan. I am a fast reader so, audible feels way too freaking slow for me.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Sep 21, 2021, 12:11
 
It's been a long time since I read them. I keep meaning to re-read (or more likely listen, as I prefer audible books nowadays).

I don't remember anything about cloning either, so I suspect you're right.

Yeah, like I said, I have mixed feelings. I'd love for it to succeed. Part of the problem is that the trailer was probably cut in a way to intrigue audiences that are not familiar with the books, so we'll just have to wait and see.
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The Flying Penguin wrote on Sep 21, 2021, 10:48:
Blue, as a fellow classic science fiction fan, I am both hopeful and in dread of The Foundation series. I just can't see how that can be translated into a TV series without losing the soul of the books. Asimov's writings are generally cerebral (more like West Wing) and don't translate into the action spectacle that the trailers imply. Plus it's such a vast amount of time to cover.
When was the last time you read the books? I was in complete agreement with the sentiment you have expressed. However, after Apple announced this I went back and read the "first five" books of the series. Namely:

Foundation (1951)
Foundation and Empire (1952)
Second Foundation (1953)
Foundation's Edge (1982)
Foundation and Earth (1986)

And now frankly, I think the first three are within the ability of being produced as a television series. I mean, they did make The West Wing. So they can be cerebral if they want to. Plus Foundation lacks the kind of crazy epic stuff lots of sci-fi has, like say Dune. Dune is always going to be a tough task. They might have difficulty getting the "right feel" for Foundation, but it could be done. That said, they already have me worried with the cloning stuff. I plan on going back to read the original series AGAIN, but I'm pretty certain there is no mention of emperors cloning themselves. So, I'm concerned there might be a little too much creative writing going on by the show's writers...

I guess it would be more accurate to say, the "crazy epic" stuff in Foundation aren't a significant issue for reproduction on a television screen. Showing Trantor isn't an issue, or ships in space. The core of the Foundation series is really much more about people interacting with each other and how society sweeps people along.. sometimes without them even realizing it.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Sep 21, 2021, 10:48
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Sep 21, 2021, 10:48
 
Blue, as a fellow classic science fiction fan, I am both hopeful and in dread of The Foundation series. I just can't see how that can be translated into a TV series without losing the soul of the books. Asimov's writings are generally cerebral (more like West Wing) and don't translate into the action spectacle that the trailers imply. Plus it's such a vast amount of time to cover.

Then again, I would have bet good money that The Expanse was a book series that could never be properly made into a TV series, and I was (happily) wrong.

I also lament that there are so many potentially good novels out there that could and should be made into TV series or movies. I'd give my left arm for a TV series based on Heinlein's The Moon is A Harsh Mistress. I think Clark's Rendezvous with Rama (first book only please, I prefer to forget the other two) would make a marvelous movie with modern CGI, and I really can't understand why that hasn't already happened. And what about a TV series or movie based on Niven and Pournelle's The Mote in God's Eye?

My hope is that with all these streaming services willing to spend the money on something risky and different, and willing to give a good novel the TV series treatment (because most good novels don't work well as a 2 1/2 hour screenplay), that we're in for some good times.
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Sep 21, 2021, 09:29
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A funeral truck in North Carolina has the slogan
'don't get vaccinated'

It was an ad agency's pro-vaccination stunt
Insider
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Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, died of Covid-19 after mocking the vaccine.
Rightwing talk radio host is a CoMorbidity.
Meanwhile, media watchdogs suggest some basic level of responsibility to the public should be required to keep a broadcast license.

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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 22:49:
There Were More Deaths Than Births In Alabama Last Year, A Grim First For The State

Grim for them, joyous for everyone else.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 22:15:
Not sure if I should laugh or cry about this one... just read about a new theory from a right wing website that Ds are mandating the vaccine because they know the Rs will revolt against this. Meaning the Ds are vaccinated and the Rs are not, and the Rs die in greater numbers which is critically important with the razor thin margin so many elections are decided by. So, effectively Ds are mandating the vaccine in order to kill Rs. Sure. Makes total sense.
sure you didn't see it here Biggrin
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 04:05:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Sep 19, 2021, 22:23:
Increase of deaths of unvaccinated NON-Covid related.
Specialists are alarmed at reports of sudden death by suffocation of healthy unvaccinated without being infected, after President Biden announced today his Breathing Mandate.
More data forthcoming at Uranus News.


If the democratic president says to breath, republicans would rather die than to do it? MAKE IT HAPPEN
emphasis mine
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There Were More Deaths Than Births In Alabama Last Year, A Grim First For The State


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Sep 20, 2021, 22:15
 
Not sure if I should laugh or cry about this one... just read about a new theory from a right wing website that Ds are mandating the vaccine because they know the Rs will revolt against this. Meaning the Ds are vaccinated and the Rs are not, and the Rs die in greater numbers which is critically important with the razor thin margin so many elections are decided by. So, effectively Ds are mandating the vaccine in order to kill Rs. Sure. Makes total sense.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat.
Sep 20, 2021, 21:21
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat. Sep 20, 2021, 21:21
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 21:07:
All quite on the Republican front,

Mississippi Governor Announces Bold Plan To Do Nothing To Stop COVID

www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/
mississippi-governor-announces-bold-plan-to-do-nothing-to-stop-covid

Deaths per million now only behind Peru, worst in the world.

He can't do anything like recommending mask wearing because if he did the mouth breathers would not re-elect him.
He just wants to keep his job, why are you picking on him.
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat.
Sep 20, 2021, 21:19
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat. Sep 20, 2021, 21:19
Sep 20, 2021, 21:19
 
WarPig wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 20:49:
I wonder how much mud and gravel will embed itself in the sides of those tires, and then how hard will it be to clean them out. I would think that a rock stuck up inside there could do some damage as it possibly wears a hole as the tire flexes.

I have a hard time believing that they'll last three times as long as today's tires. Maybe three times longer than a tire that's constantly improperly inflated, but I don't see how the tread itself is any different.

Another thing is that they'll probably need their own custom wheels.
It's a whole bunch of "could" last up to three times. It doesn't mention anywhere about a different high mileage tread compound but it does talk about retreading. Not sure if retreading comes into that three times longer hoopla.
"Because you don’t have to worry about tire punctures or underinflation that leads to early wear, Michelin says that the Uptis could last up to three times as long as a regular tire."

Uptis eliminates the need for pressure checks, making it ideal for self-driving vehicles and passenger car fleets.

from the Uptis-FAQ-September-2020-v2-1.pdf

7. Is Uptis durable?
Uptis, as designed, is robust but not indestructible. Uptis can withstand much greater shocks and
impacts than a traditional tire, and greater impacts than other wheel solutions. Michelin is also
advancing research to enable the airless wheel assembly to accept multiple retreads (i.e., the
rechargeable or 3D-printed pillar of innovation in the Vision concept), which would extend its total
lifespan dramatically and deliver many more maintenance-free miles than a pneumatic tire for
passenger vehicles.

9. Will Uptis impact the fuel efficiency of my vehicle or range for electric cars?
Today’s level of rolling resistance is about the same as a zero-pressure (“run flat”) tire, i.e., 8 kg/t. So
one can expect the same fuel efficiency when switching to Uptis from a run flat tire. This performance
will improve with future developments in design and materials for Uptis. Fuel efficiency of traditional
tires is affected by pressure loss, which will not happen with Uptis.
20. What is the estimated mileage?
Uptis will have the same mileage of a standard tire.
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat.
Sep 20, 2021, 21:07
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Sep 20, 2021, 21:07
 
All quite on the Republican front,

Mississippi Governor Announces Bold Plan To Do Nothing To Stop COVID

www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/
mississippi-governor-announces-bold-plan-to-do-nothing-to-stop-covid

Deaths per million now only behind Peru, worst in the world.

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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat.
Sep 20, 2021, 20:49
WarPig
 
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Re: Michelin's Uptis is an airless car tire that won't ever get a flat. Sep 20, 2021, 20:49
Sep 20, 2021, 20:49
 WarPig
 
I wonder how much mud and gravel will embed itself in the sides of those tires, and then how hard will it be to clean them out. I would think that a rock stuck up inside there could do some damage as it possibly wears a hole as the tire flexes.

I have a hard time believing that they'll last three times as long as today's tires. Maybe three times longer than a tire that's constantly improperly inflated, but I don't see how the tread itself is any different.

Another thing is that they'll probably need their own custom wheels.
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 20, 2021, 19:28:
But it's almost impossible to compare the numbers from something that happened 100 years ago to what is happening today.
For example: The 1918 flu claimed an estimated 20 to 50 million victims, Covid is currently <5mil.
And yet, the US has more COVID deaths than it had Spanish flu deaths. That certainly indicates something...

The way this thing is going, COVID has time yet. Don't get me wrong, I am not cheering COVID along, I just have no optimism left for this particular situation.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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